Here's today's puzzle

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Here's today's puzzle

Post by vampicker » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:00 pm

What do you think is the material in the retained stuff in the center of the image?
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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by DHalladay » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:49 pm

A Cocoa Puff nugget?
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Post by JASONKFLO » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:19 am

Almost looks like a small bug.
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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by Tekkie1 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:23 am

I thought it was your example of cancelled dies JR.

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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by vampicker » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:38 am

Struck by a cancelled die, but what's the crud?
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Post by ...kenny » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:04 am

Steel/ metal chip from cancel tool?... :lol:
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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by raynat3 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:18 am

Part of the chisel?

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Post by Tekkie1 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:41 am

My Un-edjumacated guess is it looks like carbon.

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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by dave700x » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:56 am

A piece of silver from 1884 - or - something agent Mulder warned us about?
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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by Mediocrates007 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:59 am

Die flake from the canceled die?

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Post by vamnuke » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:05 am

Tip of a knife ?

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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by vampicker » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:35 am

At least one of you is kinda close. I'll tell the story about what this is later tomorrow.
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Post by Kurt28 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:48 pm

I'm not really good at this, but if I had it in hand I would see if it was attracted to a magnet.

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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by shortnock » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:56 pm

Metal from host coin.
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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by iwillbenice » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:18 pm

Chip.

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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by vampicker » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:50 pm

OK, here's the story. This is obviously struck by a cancelled die. In fact, this is one of the 2 oz tokens Ash had struck with the mated 84-CC pair he bought at the ANA. I did an 'About VAMs' column on the dies right after the show. I've had the dies in hand. The pic is from the ANA. After the tokens were struck from these, the die faces were shiny again, which makes sense, because that's a lot of metal flow across their surface during coining. It got me thinking about where the patina from the die face went,. I strongly suspected it would have been embedded as debris in the first few pieces struck from the encrusted dies. At FUN, Ash had the first struck piece and some of the early strikes. His Number 1 piece has a bunch of little spots that are struck thru retained patina. I purchased this example, the 15th piece stuck, specifically for the fairly big chunk of retained patina on the surface of the chisel cancellation
'Struck thru retained patina' is a fairly unique type of feature I doubt I'll ever see again.
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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by Mediocrates007 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:20 am

vampicker wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:50 pm
OK, here's the story. This is obviously struck by a cancelled die. In fact, this is one of the 2 oz tokens Ash had struck with the mated 84-CC pair he bought at the ANA. I did an 'About VAMs' column on the dies right after the show. I've had the dies in hand. The pic is from the ANA. After the tokens were struck from these, the die faces were shiny again, which makes sense, because that's a lot of metal flow across their surface during coining. It got me thinking about where the patina from the die face went,. I strongly suspected it would have been embedded as debris in the first few pieces struck from the encrusted dies. At FUN, Ash had the first struck piece and some of the early strikes. His Number 1 piece has a bunch of little spots that are struck thru retained patina. I purchased this example, the 15th piece stuck, specifically for the fairly big chunk of retained patina on the surface of the chisel cancellation
'Struck thru retained patina' is a fairly unique type of feature I doubt I'll ever see again.
Ok, that’s a pretty cool strike thru! Glad you get to keep some of the history of the die lol

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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by Tekkie1 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:29 am

That's actually quite amazing.
I haven't even heard of such a thing.
Has to have been some "thick patina".

Thanks for sharing JR. :D

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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by vamnuke » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:45 am

:shock:

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Re: Here's today's puzzle

Post by alefzero » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:50 pm

Yeah, not likely to be seen again. The Mint wouldn't typically restrike using dies sitting on the shelf for 137 years. Very cool.

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