1878-P wing halo

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1878-P wing halo

Post by madbirder » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:10 pm

Just curious if anyone knows what this is. I've seen it on a few coins before but not quite as noticeable as this. Also looks like some PMD where someone tried to engrave the missing wing area. Toning matches so looks like it was done long ago. Possible that it was done at the mint to get an idea of where they wanted to feathers or is that just fanciful imagination at work.
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Re: 1878-P wing halo

Post by Vam-mysterio » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:14 pm

Old scratch PMD

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Re: 1878-P wing halo

Post by vamsterdam » Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:17 pm

Tooling

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Re: 1878-P wing halo

Post by madbirder » Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:33 pm

vamsterdam wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:17 pm
Tooling
As I'm not clear on what the tooling is could you elaborate, please and the purpose of it.

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Re: 1878-P wing halo

Post by vampicker » Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:43 pm

Someone took something pointy and traced the outline of the wing in the field. As for a purpose, proof of ignorance is as good a guess as anything. Whole thing looks like it's been hit with a wire brush too. Many coins suffer the fate of landing in the hands of people that want to make them look pretty and shiny
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Re: 1878-P wing halo

Post by messydesk » Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:10 pm

vampicker wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:43 pm
Someone took something pointy and traced the outline of the wing in the field. As for a purpose, proof of ignorance is as good a guess as anything. ...
This happens enough where the purpose is probably a boredom-driven, "let's see if I can trace this design without slipping." An alternative was that there was a dollar bet riding on whether they could or couldn't do it. The person attempting would then lose the scratched coin in the bet. Empirical evidence seems to indicate that nobody ever won the bet trying to trace the design.
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Re: 1878-P wing halo

Post by vampicker » Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:43 am

I like the barstool contest theory
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Re: 1878-P wing halo

Post by Kurt28 » Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:04 am

I believe you have one of the earliest know works of Pugsley Fenderbolt.
While he never achieved the status of Master Engraver, he was able to make a modest income making love tokens and hobo nickels.
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Re: 1878-P wing halo

Post by vamsterdam » Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:59 pm

What jr and jb said.

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