PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

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Re: PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

Post by alefzero » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:22 pm

The 21-D will be the king of the release. Has some messed up strikes too. Can't wait to see my grades and TrueViews. Didn't look at any of them before submission. Just dropped them off.

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Post by DHalladay » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:23 pm

alefzero wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:22 pm
The 21-D will be the king of the release. Has some messed up strikes too. Can't wait to see my grades and TrueViews. Didn't look at any of them before submission. Just dropped them off.
I totally agree... in MS70, D is going to be the tough one.
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Re: PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

Post by messydesk » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:51 pm

DHalladay wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:23 pm
alefzero wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:22 pm
The 21-D will be the king of the release. Has some messed up strikes too. Can't wait to see my grades and TrueViews. Didn't look at any of them before submission. Just dropped them off.
I totally agree... in MS70, D is going to be the tough one.
With 2/3 of them grading 70, you need to put quotes around "tough."
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Re: PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

Post by JASONKFLO » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:46 pm

I still do not see how there is so many 70s on any of them. All I am hearing is issues. They must of cherry picked the good ones .
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Re: PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

Post by messydesk » Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:06 am

JASONKFLO wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:46 pm
I still do not see how there is so many 70s on any of them. All I am hearing is issues. They must of cherry picked the good ones .
People don't make a big fuss about normal looking coins, so those with problems are overrepresented in what you're hearing about.
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Re: PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

Post by JASONKFLO » Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:18 am

messydesk wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:06 am
JASONKFLO wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:46 pm
I still do not see how there is so many 70s on any of them. All I am hearing is issues. They must of cherry picked the good ones .
People don't make a big fuss about normal looking coins, so those with problems are overrepresented in what you're hearing about.
True but all 13 I bought had some issues . I imagine I may have gotten a few 69 but not 70's for sure.
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Post by alefzero » Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:52 am

The majority of the 70s (being the majority thus far graded) were advance release. I do not know the deal with those, just that they are. They were big bulk orders, unavailable to us peons. Apparently they also were allowed to be submitted with grade and holder only at 70, something also unavailable to the rest of us.

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Post by alefzero » Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:08 am

Got my 3 Peace dollar grades.

Line Items Cert # PCGS # Description Grade Region
1 1 XXXXXXX 877720 2021 $1 Peace Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
2 1 XXXXXXX 877720 2021 $1 Peace Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
3 1 XXXXXXX 877720 2021 $1 Peace Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA

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Re: PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

Post by RogerB » Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:42 pm

messydesk wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:51 pm
DHalladay wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:23 pm
alefzero wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:22 pm
The 21-D will be the king of the release. Has some messed up strikes too. Can't wait to see my grades and TrueViews. Didn't look at any of them before submission. Just dropped them off.
I totally agree... in MS70, D is going to be the tough one.
With 2/3 of them grading 70, you need to put quotes around "tough."
"Chewy" might be a better word; or maybe "stringy," or "rancid."

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Post by DarksideVAM » Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:58 am

PCGS posted the grades for my submission today as well. It's what I expected as one of the so called Peace Dollars had a flaw in the obverse field which looked almost like a lamination issue on a real Peace Dollar, except the flaw crater was really smooth instead of textured.

I took them out and gave them all a soak in acetone before submitting them. I don't know if that stops the milk spots from forming but it couldn't hurt.

1 1 44199182 877714 2021 $1 Peace Dollar 100th Anniversary MS69 USA
2 1 44199183 877714 2021 $1 Peace Dollar 100th Anniversary MS70 USA
3 1 44199184 877714 2021 $1 Peace Dollar 100th Anniversary MS70 USA
4 1 44199185 877713 2021 $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary MS70 USA

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Post by JASONKFLO » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:42 pm

I will throw this out there , someone posted some 70's they got back from PCGS on another site and A few of the coins clearly look over graded a point.
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Post by alefzero » Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:36 am

Got my grades for the 10 CC and 10 O Privy Morgans. CC has 8 70s and 2 69s. O has 7 70s and 3 69s. Will have to look at the TrueViews later to see if there are any interesting features.

1 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
2 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS69 USA
3 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
4 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
5 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
6 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
7 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
8 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
9 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
10 1 X 877717 2021-CC Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS69 USA

11 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
12 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
13 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS69 USA
14 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
15 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
16 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
17 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
18 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS70 USA
19 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS69 USA
20 1 X 877715 2021-O Privy $1 Morgan Dollar 100th Anniversary First Strike MS69 USA

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Re: PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

Post by DHalladay » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:50 pm

Over 72,000 total graded now.
MS70 population keeps easing lower.
D-Mints still bringing up the rear.

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Re: PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

Post by JASONKFLO » Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:01 am

I have seen some pics of 70 graded coins which have a small mark or two which in my opinion should be 69.
Curious how many are like that if anyone gets there 70's back it would be interesting to hear about.
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Post by HawkeEye » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:42 pm

Seems like there is hope for those of us who are holding out for a price drop
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Post by RogerB » Sun Dec 26, 2021 5:29 pm

An Unc-70 coin MUST be entirely free of non-die marks under 5x magnification. If not, then it is some lesser "grade" and also is misrepresented by the "grading" company.

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Post by HawkeEye » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:57 pm

Well, either the Mint suddenly increased their quality control or the TPG's suddenly had a grader shortage, or something in between.
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Post by DHalladay » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:52 pm

Almost 91,000 in all now...

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Post by crabscrape » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:05 am

It's sad! Just SAD!

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Re: PCGS 2021 pops keep going up

Post by alefzero » Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:27 am

Wonder if that MS62 will hold up as the lowball 2021-D. The submitter must have had at least a brief WTAF moment.

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