1883-O ?

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fogie
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1883-O ?

Post by fogie » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:49 am

Does anyone know that the following "pairs" of VAM are NOT the exact same die pair as the other in the pair?
1883-O VAM-50 and VAM-58
1883-O VAM-15 and VAM-38
1883-O VAM-12 and VAM-25
1883-O VAM-9 and VAM-6
1883-O VAM-11 and VAM-57
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Re: 1883-O ?

Post by raynat3 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:55 pm

Every coin with this reverse I have found including an older ANACS AOH 48 has had the scratch in the cotton bolls that is associated with VAM 9. I would have bought the 48 but the guy thought it was worth a fortune.

I think many early listings were looking at big bold pups, depending on series and interest level for VAMmers, so created the opportunity to have duplicate listings.

So 6, 9, 48 certainly could be duplicates. I think so and would argue that until someone can show something that is not a 9, the others should be de-listed.

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Re: 1883-O ?

Post by raynat3 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:03 pm

I have more to say about the others, but you are on the right track. The overlapping reeds is a mess, the 58 has an earlier die state that does not have full cud’s but certainly is the same die pair, the overlapped reeding rotates around the coin, I have three rotated positions but all with same space between and all the same die pair. To make things worse one of overlapped reeding becomes very week and was missed in an attribution a few years ago, so a couple duplicates on this die pair.

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Re: 1883-O ?

Post by fogie » Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:27 pm

Add to the 1883-O VAM-6, VAM-9 debacle the VAMs-48 and 65!

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