Counterfeit or what?

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rogerg
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Counterfeit or what?

Post by rogerg » Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:12 pm

Went to bid on this the other day and "PCGS verify" didn't like the serial number, what do you guys think? Fives in the serial number appear to be different fonts.
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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by DHalladay » Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:18 pm

Coin and holder look totally OK to me.
If you contact PCGS about the database issue they're going to want you to mail in the coin.
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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by Vam-mysterio » Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:47 pm

Looks legit
Try again!
Maybe on another computer
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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by Td5173 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:59 pm

I tried the number it came up as bad?

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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by JohnGoldsmith » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:28 am

I had a 1883 S MS61 and I had to send it back in. PCGS had a group of numbers that would not work. More than liklely you have one in that group.

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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by playtime1 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:40 pm

The holder looks like one of the original PCGS or near original slabs. Could that be the reason it is not registered by PCGS?

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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by Longstrider » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:51 pm

Those 5's do look wonky. Have you called PCGS?🐍

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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by messydesk » Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:07 pm

Looks fine from here. Once in a while, older holders are missing from their database for some reason.
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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by HawkeEye » Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:27 pm

I don't remember the exact issue, but several years back they sent a notification of certain ranges of numbers needing to be invalidated because of something like duplicates being issued. Maybe this one was caught up in that, but I seem to think it was rattlers.

What does the back look like. If it has a hologram then this was probably one of their retro reissues, if not then it might be genuinely old.
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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by Brabjohn » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:10 pm

Looks legit to me. Nice Vam 4.

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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by RogerB » Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:06 pm

The coin and holder look good - no indications of a counterfeit coin or tampered holder. You've probably already matched the variety.

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Re: Counterfeit or what?

Post by rogerg » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:34 pm

I did not bid on it, Got scared off by PCGS reply.

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