Made my first 21 PL!!

CascadeChris · Post by **CascadeChris** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:04 pm

Typically, I buy and sell raw ones with a possible PL chance as-is and just make a few bucks but this one had a better than average shot imo so I decided to roll the dice and shonuff.. boom! Sure feels good!! Haven't had time to sit down with her, will try tonight if I have time, but if anyone wants to try and beat me it shouldn't be hard unless these scribs aren't listed. Gotta get this girl in the census. Would be cool if it's a die pair previously unknow in PL

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CascadeChris · Post by **CascadeChris** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:05 pm

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Unc90o · Post by **Unc90o** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:26 pm

Super nice !!!

PickNGrin · Post by **PickNGrin** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:06 am

Nice Job! These are among some of the toughest to get holdered PL by Pcgs. WTG!

DHalladay · Post by **DHalladay** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:55 am

Way to go Chris!!

PLs can be very difficult to attribute, because they have complete/bold scribbles that look like completely different VAMs compared to the later die state incomplete versions that are photographed on the attribution pages, I just took a cruise through the D1 scribbles page and couldn't find a match.

alefzero · Post by **alefzero** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:11 am

I find it easier to match scribbles by turning it clockwise 90-degrees. The leg feathers present in form like an eagle's head with a big eye. For this one, I like the long die scratch outside the leg feather's and the pair of heavy scribble lines at the far right there. Those should have stuck around through die use. If it is listed, that ought to be a fast initial pick up.

Post by **messydesk** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:24 am

Congrats! To get a feel for how tough this coin is, look at the pops. 428 in PL and DMPL at PCGS in all grades, which is about 0.4% of the total 1921s graded. Other non-PL coins with pops of about that much include 03-S in 64 and higher (490), 92 in 65 and higher (414), 88-O in 66 and higher (402). The 81-S, which is one of the picks for a high grade type coin has a population of 452 in 67+ and higher.

Cherrypick for both variety and quality.

ChiefRet. · Post by **ChiefRet.** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:13 am

Sweet, nice pickin Chris.

tmanhg · Post by **tmanhg** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:21 am

I looked through the scribbles guide too and could not find a match.
Congrats Chris!!

playtime1 · Post by **playtime1** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:53 pm

Congrats Chris
Very nice coin. Have fun with the attribution game- 21s are rather tricky.

ljs123 · Post by **ljs123** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:01 pm

Try 1AA?

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... -P_VAM-1AA

dave700x · Post by **dave700x** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:31 pm

Nice score Chris!

CascadeChris · Post by **CascadeChris** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:06 pm

Thanks guys! Sure feels good to make a PL. I went up and down the list twice with no luck then Lee just casually laid down the hammer and VAM 1AA she is, no doubt! I'll add her to the pops but if anyone wants to put the PL scribb pics on the page and maybe on the scribb list too, have at her

Thanks guys!

CascadeChris · Post by **CascadeChris** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:11 pm

And thanks for the pop rundown @messydesk but be sure to have one ready for 21d in a month or two as well

ljs123 · Post by **ljs123** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:28 pm

Chris,
I have mentioned this before, but this is a good time to mention this again. As good as the information is for 21-P scribbles, I do not try the VW pages until I have gone through LVA/Crae Morton"s Scribble Guide. It was no problem coming up with VAM-1AA by the Scribble Guide Book. I never would have gotten it by the VW page.
Congratulations on your pick. WTG

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