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1886 P VAM 1F/6A question

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:19 am
by demetri
I need help seeing the ST clash. There seems to be just a line going thru not a letter???

So 1886-P VAM-6A High 6, Clashed Obverse no makes no mention of an ST clash if that is what this is???
Other than that it seems to match the 6A but there are surface impressions on reverse that maybe could be the multiple clash on the VAM 1C but I'm guessing not. Can any one shed some light on the ST clash........


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Re: 1886 P VAM 1F/6A question

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:09 am
by ljs123
"I need help seeing the ST clash. There seems to be just a line going thru not a letter???"
As you mentioned 6A "makes no mention of an ST clash". It is listed for an n clash. So you shouldn't expect to see an st clash. Why do you think there should be an st clash? I do not have your coin in hand, and from the photos that you show, I have no reason to think of an st clash.
Do you see the listed n clash?


This is not a 1C. It doesn't have the 3+2 Clashed Reverse that the 1C is listed for. Also, your coin can't be related to VAM-1C because your date location is different.

Re: 1886 P VAM 1F/6A question

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:55 am
by demetri
I realize that, I said it matches pretty close to 6A but I missed adding a picture of the marks I mentioned,
sorry

I think they are just surface marks or maybe related to clash, your thoughts
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Re: 1886 P VAM 1F/6A question

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:01 am
by demetri
I dont think there should be one, the same slight N clash is present as shown for the 1F but there is a mark where the ST would be i one one were listed. So Im asking what this IS????

Re: 1886 P VAM 1F/6A question

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:03 am
by demetri
Kind of looks like a die crack running across gap to next one too??? What is it??

Anyone know??

Re: 1886 P VAM 1F/6A question

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:10 am
by demetri
I think your right, maybe I'm looking too high for ST, I guess a crack or part of the wing

Re: 1886 P VAM 1F/6A question

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:59 am
by ljs123
demetri wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:55 am
I realize that, I said it matches pretty close to 6A but I missed adding a picture of the marks I mentioned,
sorry

I think they are just surface marks or maybe related to clash, your thoughts

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The mark in the reverse field next to the right wreath is a clash mark. It is from the back of the cap on the obverse.
Reading Attribution 101 may help you. Look at the overlays and the section on Clashing.
http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... bution_101

Re: 1886 P VAM 1F/6A question

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 am
by ljs123
demetri wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:01 am
I dont think there should be one, the same slight N clash is present as shown for the 1F but there is a mark where the ST would be i one one were listed. So Im asking what this IS????

Crack

Re: 1886 P VAM 1F/6A question

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:36 pm
by demetri
Thanks ljs123 appreciate your thoughts