OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

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OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by Unc90o » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:29 pm

A typical for 8 Reales Mexico Republic, the dies look messed-up to begin with. This one however is beyond that imo.

Obverse rim to rim die crack with retained cud at the top portion.
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Reverse rotated about 40 degree CW.
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What I'm wondering is rotated reverse for this series rare or not?
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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by ljs123 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:40 pm

nice break

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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by dave700x » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:03 pm

That's a gotta have for any serious VAMmer. ;)
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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by messydesk » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:22 pm

The last year they were legal tender in the US, too.
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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by vampicker » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:43 pm

The dies have a great hand made character to them. Love how uneven the date is. That rim to rim break is pretty damn cool. Die rotations on the Mexican branch mints are somewhat common, but still kinda neat. Great piece!
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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by crabscrape » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:44 pm

John,

Very Nice coin! and some what rare in what you have going on with the coin and in the last year of legal tender too!. The question should be why was this a legal tender to begin with??? Lets here the thoughts of everybody??

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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by vampicker » Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:42 am

Their legal tender status dates back to the creation of the United States. The Spanish colonial 8 reales or milled dollars were typically good silver of a fairly standard fineness and weight. The were accepted in commerce almost universally. Many of the notes of the Continental Congress were denominated in Spanish milled dollars. These coins and their successors from an independent Mexico were far more plentiful and available than many of the early US issues. There was far more silver mined in Mexico and South America until the Comstock Lode hit. Not long afterward the US started cranking out Morgan Dollars.
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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by crabscrape » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:24 pm

Very nice John. Excellent response! and that is history.

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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by RogerRock » Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:29 pm

Rim to rim die breaks are listed as "Split Die" where field displacement shows. Great eye appeal on large silver coin and
uncommon error on silver dollar size coins! Congrats on your "Error Pick".
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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by Unc90o » Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:52 pm

Thanks guys. I learned a lot from this post.

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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by crabscrape » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:25 pm

Nico,

Didn't mean anything out of the way. It is very nice coin you have! :D

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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by Unc90o » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:35 pm

Jimmy, on the contrary I'm glad you asked :)

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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by VamHelsing » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:26 am

Reminds me of an 1804 "Dollar" I have, minus the cool break!

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Re: OT: 1857 Mexico Republic 8 reales

Post by Longstrider » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:35 pm

That is a beauty. Definitely a must have for me.. Thanks everyone.

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