Just Back From Leroy

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twohawks
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Just Back From Leroy

Post by twohawks » Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:02 am

Well a few years back I had sent in a group of 1878 14.2 8 TF coins. My thinking that the reverse die is the last uses and the later die states have 2 different displaced die breaks, one on the obverse and than the reverse. At the time I had collected 3 PL or ones that should of graded Pl and 3 that where in different die state ranges. At the time I had made mentioned the striping that's found around the "OF" on the reverse.

Well Leroy divided the VAM 14.2 into 3 different VAM designations at the time, and 1 was a blind "or without an example" to my dismay.

After looking at more 1878 P 8 TF than I thought possible, last year I finally put my hands one that I thought was the unicorn, that I sent out to a few other people here from VAM World to seek their opinion. I also just got the coin graded, "well I just got it back" since December in an PCGS AU 55 holder.

I then sent this coin to Leroy, and yesterday I received this coin back. Leroy has confirmed this coin as a "real VAM 14.2" no feeder finger gouges.

So the the 1878 P VAM 14.2 group is as follows.

VAM 14.2 Is just like all other VAM 14.2 coins, But "Has no cracks on both sides, or any feeder finger marks above or thought or around "OF" on the reverse/

VAM 14.2a Is just like the above listing, again No breaks and you will find 1 to 5 feeder finger gouges. The 2 to 5 feeder finger part of this information is from me. This is based on what I have found or looked at while researching the progression. The feeder finger gouging and striping is a "ware event" where the feeder fingers swiped against the die during ejection most likely, and the fingers wore into the die.

Last the VAM 14.2b This is a broken die VAM 14.2. This type is the most common and is found in varying die states, Over the well over 3 years of looking into the VAM 14.2 coins, I would say that this VAM even in late die state is common into the grades of MS 64.
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