Die Adjustment Strike ?

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Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by lewisr2 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:07 pm

I picked up this 83-O since I thought it may be a die adjustment strike.
What are the forum members opinion.?
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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by Namvet69 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:36 pm

Is it the weak date that indicates what you say? Peace Roy

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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by lewisr2 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:19 pm

Weakly struck obverse from 6th star left CCW to 6th star right and M of UNUM.

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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by vampicker » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:40 pm

What does the reeding look like?
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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by fogie » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:43 pm

Thats cool! Very weak in the stars. I look forward to hearing about the reeded edge JR ask about.

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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by vamnuke » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:10 pm

Neat; would like to hear the verdict... :popcorn:

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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by lewisr2 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:50 am

The reeding looks normal.

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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by vampicker » Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:24 pm

Normal reeding puts this in the 'weakly struck' pile. Sorry

But I gotta ask - there's those pancake stars on the left and no clashing apparent in the pics. Is this an actual VAM 22?
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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by raynat3 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:20 pm

Would be nice if that was a 22 before clashing, Ive never seen one. The mm in the coin pictured appears to me to be slightly higher than the 22.

I have several examples of the die pair used in 1J that exhibit the same weakness on obverse and reverse of the coin pictured except the weakness in eagles left wing tip is not as weak in my examples.

A close up of the wing gap and lower loop of three will help identify.

The 22 is very pronounced.
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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by lewisr2 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:09 pm

I don't think this is a V-22A.
I don't see the notch on the inner bottom of the 3 of date.
I don't see the lines at the bottom of the Y of LIBERTY.

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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by messydesk » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:09 pm

It the planchet slightly thin there? Do you have a weight? The obverse weakness is directly opposite that on the reverse.
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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by raynat3 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:12 pm

See if this diagonal line where it connects to vertical line in upper left side of Y you can see in your coin. The 1J shares the obverse with 1C2. the lines get pretty mushy in the 1J. Also check reverse under second S in STATES for beveling of field. Can be seen on most 1J’s. It’s interesting as your wing gap looks more like 1C1, but picture may be fooling me.
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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by raynat3 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:15 pm

Should have said above Second S.

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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by lewisr2 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:49 pm

I do not have anything to weight the coin.
The fields on the coin are semi-PL. When I tip and turn the coin to reflect the light I cannot see any change in the field above or below STATES, so there isn't any beveling.
Yes, eagle's right wing tip is weak; much weaker than eagle's left wing tip. Denticles above eagle's left wing tip are weak, denticle divisions are barely visible at the ends.

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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by vamsterdam » Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:47 pm

i;ve seen several of these.

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Re: Die Adjustment Strike ?

Post by RogerB » Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:52 am

Possibly hard planchet (poor annealing) at normal pressure. Common problem at NO Mint. Insufficient annealing capacity to balance HQ coinage demand.

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