Before Morgans, Seated, Bust, ...

[messydesk]

... Mexican portrait 8 Reales, and Pillar dollars, the Dutch Lion Dollars were the dollars of the day in colonial America. Picked this one up yesterday.



I guess all I need is a Gobrecht to finish a basic type set of American dollars.

[DHalladay]

That is a GREAT looking coin John. What grade is it?

My Lion Dollar is an AU53 1670 and I agree with you; it is a must-have part of a U.S. dollar type set (and boy are they hard to find with a decent strike! Your coin is excellent in that regard.)

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[vampicker]

Yeah, I've got a couple of these for my collection too. This one's my favorite.
United Netherlands - Holland 1576 daalder

[messydesk]

That is a GREAT looking coin John. What grade is it?

AU58.

My Lion Dollar is an AU53 1670 and I agree with you; it is a must-have part of a U.S. dollar type set (and boy are they hard to find with a decent strike! Your coin is excellent in that regard.)

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They are hard to find attractive. Between the strike, planchet flaws, and sea salvage coins, it pays to be choosy. One that has to have been a presentation piece just sold on Heritage for $22,600. It was attractive, fully struck, round, not blast white, graded 64*. Totally atypical for these.

[DHalladay]

Wow!!! on that $22,600 coin.
Amazing... crazy... unbelievable. I've never seen an example even remotely close to it. The description about possibly being a presentation piece is certainly plausible.

Thanks very much for sharing the link!

[vampicker]

Yeah, stunning example!

[messydesk]

Heritage's pre-auction estimate was a laughable $1500-2000.

[DHalladay]

Heritage's pre-auction estimate was a laughable $1500-2000.

I'll write a $2K check right now...

[alefzero]

Yeah, that auction estimate was nuts. Just imagine someone listing that on an eBay 7-day auction with a $1500 reserve.

[vamnuke]

[pup_picker]

is the heritage coin double-struck or just have a LOT of recutting? perhaps one of the working dies spiffed up to strike some special pieces?

[weth]

Hey, let's not forget the French ecu! Along with the eight reales, the ecu was monetized as a dollar in 1806.
In that light, I just picked up a "very early CC dollar" or as PCGS called it a )(.
The mint location is in Besançon and their mintmark was two nested Cs:

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[messydesk]

Also an important dollar coin, but took a back seat to the Dutch and Spanish ones. The reversed C they should have used in the mint mark is supported in Unicode Ↄ. I'd have them fix it . I have a 1789-I in my World Coins in Early America set.