1878S VAM-45.....????

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1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:32 pm

Hi everyone, I have narrowed this down to V45 due to mint mark position which is slightly to the right looking at coin. Still a newbee but having a go. :D

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:33 pm

mmm...photo's
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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:34 pm

And..
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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:35 pm

And..
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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by vamsterdam » Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:17 pm

nope. try again. not the engraved wing feather. start there, and vam 45 has the "w" die polish lines inside the ribbon bow. this does not.

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:35 pm

Hi vamsterdam, not sure what i'm missing here. The only obverse's i can find are 40,45 and 64 with the Die chip in eye lid. You've eliminated 45. I eliminated 40 because mint location is slightly to the left looking at coin, mine is opposite to this. The V64 does'nt appear to have a broken 'R' in trust. Well, now confused. :roll:

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by vampicker » Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:40 pm

The starting point for a 78-S should be the engraved feather at the base of the wing on the viewer's left. This piece is pretty distinctive and really only leaves you with two choices.
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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:47 pm

Hi vampicker, i am guessing VAM-40? :D

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by vamsterdam » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:14 pm

supposed to read-NOTE the engraved wing feather.

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by vampicker » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:42 pm

Do you think the engraved area at the base of the wing on this piece actually looks like the images on the VAM 40 page?

BTW, that obverse marker you've gotten hung up on might not survive getting poked by a stick on your example. Maybe look for another marker, like in the gaps in the lower hair.
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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by lewisr2 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:27 pm

69 or 102
I will have to check them out to see which one.

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by vamsterdam » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:09 am

Since lewis spilled the beans, it’s a vam 69.

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by lewisr2 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:34 pm

Sorry that I spilled the beans.
However I think after some one looks at a coin (78-S in particular) for a few days, and has not figured out what VAM it is, then being told the VAM is no harm, because that person has learned a lot about the method to identify VAMs.

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by bjsilverfox » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:47 pm

Has anyone else noticed this coin appears to be struck through wood shavings? Take a look from the bottom of the eagles right wing down through the right talon and into the arrow feathers.

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by Prider358 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:09 pm

Thank you vampicker, vamsterdam and lewisr2 for your feedback and help. lewisr2 thanks for spilling the beans I will gladly clean them up :lol: I am a NEWBEE and still learning. Depending on wear on coin and different lighting/angle of lighting, sore tired old eye's :lol: It's a struggle some time's. Like lewisr2 said, if someone's been on a coin for a few day's (78S's), then they require more help, or, just spill the beans. :lol: Made my day, now on to the next 78S, or the next year. :D
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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by Prider358 » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:28 am

Hi bjsilverfox, your comment 'STRUCK THROUGH WOOD SHAVINGS'. Could you enlighten me please on your comment, thanks. :D

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Re: 1878S VAM-45.....????

Post by bjsilverfox » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:18 pm

Your latest closeup of that area appears to be just some discoloration or maybe a stain.

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