1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

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1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:08 pm

Hi everyone, something different, hope it's ok to post. PCGS and NGC could not authenticate. YES or NO would of be fine, oh well, money spent, no result....... :lol:

Weight = 26.88g
Dia = 39.69mm
Thickness =2.4mm
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:10 pm

And
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:11 pm

And
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:13 pm

And
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:14 pm

And
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by jungliston1 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:22 pm

Hello, I have no idea on Authenticity. But, is it Over-Struck or Clashed. From your pics it looks like one or the other. Maybe if it is, you will have a better chance of getting it Authenticated. Have a Good Week.
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by colwillys » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:25 pm

Are they saying counterfeit , china knot off .. I take hand me downs .
Can we see REV .

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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by vampicker » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:42 pm

Compare your piece to a certified genuine example of the same marriage and see what you think

https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-dollars/ ... ail-071515
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by vampicker » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:52 pm

and thanks for including pictures of the edge. I'm surprised you got two no decision verdicts unless that's become the stock answer
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by DHalladay » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:52 pm

vampicker wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:42 pm
Compare your piece to a certified genuine example of the same marriage and see what you think

https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-dollars/ ... ail-071515

I am very much looking forward to the answer and explanation on this, as I know almost nothing about early dollars.
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by messydesk » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:57 pm

The edge looks a bit sharp.
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by vampicker » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:08 pm

messydesk wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:57 pm
The edge looks a bit sharp.
Indeed. A genuine example would have been struck in a big screw press with an 'open collar'. The look of the edge alone is enough to condemn it. The weird depressions and little apparent strike thru spots only pile on. Overall it is well done, but looks copied
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by RogerB » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:17 pm

Going from memory --- but I recall many bust dollars having a slight "muffin top" roll-over from the rim to edge. The photos above don't seem to show it. Slight softness to everything, but could be the photos...?

With NGC and PCGS refusing to authenticate it, the consensus has to be counterfeit.

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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:27 pm

I would just like to thank everyone for their interest and feed back on this coin. John, I thank you for the link to the GENUINE 1795 as I am amazed at some of the similarities to my coin which you can see for yourself in the added photo's. it's a shame i can't compare the lettered edge.
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:29 pm

and...
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:30 pm

and
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:31 pm

and
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:34 pm

I must use bigger and thicker arrows in future :lol:
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:35 pm

and
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Re: 1795 Draped Bust Silver Dollar????

Post by Prider358 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:10 pm

Quite a few similarities to the GENUINE COIN from the link that vampicker posted.
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