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Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:37 am
by dcarr
I think I probably have most of these that are currently known ;)

This one was recently for sale on the internet, unattributed:
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Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:42 am
by evensocome
VERY cool! 👍👍👍

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:27 am
by RogerRock
Very unique niche ! Thanks for sharing. 8-)

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:44 am
by evensocome
To me, the history alone of these who-dunnit CC's should give them more general collector interest than most VAMs. VAMs are the niche - these are just plain US history with a side of criminal intrigue in the form of a coin. Trying to explain VAMs to people makes us sound like bird watchers. These CC's on the other hand, read like a real-life high-stakes historical crime mystery. Just sayin. Pile on me now...

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:03 am
by blh74
evensocome wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:44 am
To me, the history alone of these who-dunnit CC's should give them more general collector interest than most VAMs. VAMs are the niche - these are just plain US history with a side of criminal intrigue in the form of a coin. Trying to explain VAMs to people makes us sound like bird watchers. These CC's on the other hand, read like a real-life high-stakes historical crime mystery. Just sayin. Pile on me now...
I agree it is truly interesting.

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:42 pm
by lured_in_again
Curious if any of the 93 o privately made are known to have a rotated reverse. Several years back at a local show, there was a dealer that had 5 or 6 of the 1893 o's in his stock that all looked "funny". Each of them had approximate rotation of 45 to 75 degrees. He said he had bought them all from an old collector earlier that year. I wrote it off as a small group of counterfeits.

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:59 pm
by dcarr
lured_in_again wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:42 pm
Curious if any of the 93 o privately made are known to have a rotated reverse. Several years back at a local show, there was a dealer that had 5 or 6 of the 1893 o's in his stock that all looked "funny". Each of them had approximate rotation of 45 to 75 degrees. He said he had bought them all from an old collector earlier that year. I wrote it off as a small group of counterfeits.
I've never seen ANY privately-made VAM with a rotated die more than about 5 degrees.
And I've never seen any genuine 1893-O with a rotated die more than that same amount.

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:48 pm
by collectinsince65
I am in Dan's camp on looking for CC's
Have a pair of 1894 o CC sterling tested by @CascadeChris
that I posted on here awhile back.
Will get these out to LVA along with my CC sterling 84 S in the near future
Searching for these CC's is a niche in itself
Kinda like searching for a long lock 78 S
Have about 6 of the 1896 o CC VAM 22
I find it an easy one to spot when looking
Mike

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:19 pm
by vamsterdam
i look every time i am out. i have quite a pile of cc's but none form 94o, or 93o

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:23 pm
by DHalladay
Wonderful find Dan! :mrgreen:
I constantly look for those and if I ever find one I'll try to sneak it into a PCGS holder via a bulk submission.

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:51 pm
by messydesk
DHalladay wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:23 pm
Wonderful find Dan! :mrgreen:
I constantly look for those and if I ever find one I'll try to sneak it into a PCGS holder via a bulk submission.
For the record, I discourage sending them fakes.

:D

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:13 pm
by crabscrape
Why John? Or I could say Dennis?

Re: Found another 1893-O VAM-6 privately-made, post your 1893-O/1894-O PMs

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:36 am
by messydesk
crabscrape wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:13 pm
Why John? Or I could say Dennis?
I suppose I could have used this instead. -> ;)