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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:10 pm
by rodmeader
What a great find, Wayne. A gem like that in the $30 box, amazing.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:12 pm
by crabscrape
Just a Awesome find!! WTG :D

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:14 pm
by JASONKFLO
messydesk wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:27 am
JASONKFLO wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:53 am
what is this coin worth?
A couple more zeroes than what he paid.

(Note to nitpickers: This question is a good one in the context of this find, is not a cold "what's this worth" question, and the power of knowledge would be lost if the question had been posted in the WIW forum, so I'm allowing it.)
I will have to look harder at 1889 P's haha , this one looks cleaned by the pics to me but sounds like a nice way to make 2020 a great year.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:23 pm
by PacificWR
When you look at the reverse of this VAM and see just a faint clash to the N of IN one realizes that there is no way this reverse die was the one used for the double clash event on the obverse. There are no clash marks on any of the wreaths and a single clash to the N of IN could not have created the depth seen on the obverse. Think the reverse die used for the double clash event was destroyed on the second clash. See photos below.

********** Click on the blue link to view the VAM page. Click the photo to view at full resolution. ****************
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1889 P VAM 23A

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:53 pm
by bob259
Awesome!, Awesome! Awesome! That's a triple Awesome!

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:53 pm
by Longstrider
Great pick up.๐Ÿ

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:07 pm
by CascadeChris
How strangely fortuitous this find is too... what a coincidence that this is found the same time @fogie gets the Leroy Supplements and added the 7A/B/C work @78-sLongnock @messydesk and I (with an honorable mention to @dave700x) did in linking it to the 23A. Amazing.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:10 pm
by Mhomei
Super suck of the year is right!@!!

Great find Wayne, you certainly deserve
The VAM gods smiling down on you

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:47 pm
by PacificWR
JASONKFLO wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:14 pm
messydesk wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:27 am
JASONKFLO wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:53 am
what is this coin worth?
A couple more zeroes than what he paid.

(Note to nitpickers: This question is a good one in the context of this find, is not a cold "what's this worth" question, and the power of knowledge would be lost if the question had been posted in the WIW forum, so I'm allowing it.)
I will have to look harder at 1889 P's haha , this one looks cleaned by the pics to me but sounds like a nice way to make 2020 a great year.
I donโ€™t think this specimen has been cleaned. There is a fair amount of toning on it and some rubs, but I will find out soon enough as it is on itโ€™s way to PCGS.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:48 pm
by PacificWR
Thanks bob259 and Longstrider.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:50 pm
by PacificWR
Mhomei wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:10 pm
Super suck of the year is right!@!!

Great find Wayne, you certainly deserve
The VAM gods smiling down on you
Thanks Mitch. The shop has a lot of 1889-P's come in and I can't tell you how many I have looked at, but I never ever thought a VAM-23A would come in. I am still having a hard time believing it.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:53 pm
by PacificWR
CascadeChris wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:07 pm
How strangely fortuitous this find is too... what a coincidence that this is found the same time @fogie gets the Leroy Supplements and added the 7A work @shortnock @messydesk and I (with an honorable mention to @dave700x) did in linking it to the 23A. Amazing.
Chris you are so right about the work. I just update the pages a couple of days ago. Do you know if any of the work is written down and if anyone has the old VAM-7, VAM-7A and VAM-7B. I sure would like the chance to look at them because the reverse die used on my 23A just does not match up with the clashes on the obverse.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:22 pm
by 78-sLongnock
Once the COVID restrictions are lifted, The the 1889 Vam 23A, Vam 7, Vam 7A, Vam 7B and Vam 7C pieces are in place in Ohio for LVA to view them in His hand.
All of the pieces were Put in place in Jan 2020 after the FUN show 2020.
The delay occurred as LVA was in the middle of his updates and then the virus hit.
Chris Simpson and I gave a presentation at the Jan 10th 2020 Vam Thing XVII Fun Show regarding All these Vams: 1889 Vam 23A and all
The 1899 Vam 7โ€™s.
โ€œLife Beyond 1889 Vam 23A Not the End of the World as We Know Itโ€
I hope the video of this presentation can be uploaded into the library soon.

Chris Simpson, John Baumgart, John Roberts and I have been on this hunt since 3/28/19.
LVA saw some of the pieces Q 4 2019 but wanted To see addition pieces before finalizing the
His decision to kill All the 1889 Vam 7โ€™s And replacing them with Vam 23B, C, And D.
This is why the LVA put โ€œ Tentativeโ€ label on them in the 2020 supplement.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:25 pm
by CascadeChris
78-sLongnock wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:22 pm
The the 1889 Vam 23A, Vam 7, Vam 7A, Vam 7B and Vam 7C are in place for LVA to view
Once the restrictions are lifted.
All of the pieces were Put in place in Jan after the FUN show 2020.
The delay occurred as LVA was in the middle of his updates and then the virus hit.
I gave a presentation at the 2020 Fun Show regarding All these Vams
๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:41 pm
by PacificWR
78-sLongnock wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:22 pm
The the 1889 Vam 23A, Vam 7, Vam 7A, Vam 7B and Vam 7C are in place for LVA to view
Once the restrictions are lifted.
All of the pieces were Put in place in Jan after the FUN show 2020.
The delay occurred as LVA was in the middle of his updates and then the virus hit.
I gave a presentation at the 2020 Fun Show regarding All these Vams
Sounds like you have been working on the reverse die for the 23A. Please share once LVA is done.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:38 pm
by Andy Hansen
Congrats. Iโ€™m definitely a high dollar buyer if your interested. PM or email.
Thanks, Andy Hansen
andyhansen11@outlook.com

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:59 pm
by collectinsince65
Hey Wayne
I have a 1889 PCGS 64 /VSS VAM 7A
Can post images if they would help.
My visual says you have a rev diff than my 7A
Mike

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:09 pm
by PacificWR
Andy Hansen wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:38 pm
Congrats. Iโ€™m definitely a high dollar buyer if your interested. PM or email.
Thanks, Andy Hansen
andyhansen11@outlook.com
Thanks for the offer Andy. I am going to hang on to her for a while.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:11 pm
by PacificWR
collectinsince65 wrote: โ†‘
Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:59 pm
Hey Wayne
I have a 1889 PCGS 64 /VSS VAM 7A
Can post images if they would help.
My visual says you have a rev diff than my 7A
Mike
Could you do that? I am very interested to see the reverse and on the obverse the neck and back of the cap of your coin.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:36 pm
by collectinsince65
Here they are Wayne
Hope they help

Mike




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