Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by PacificWR » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:40 pm

Thank you Mike. Could I get you to take a close up of the neck and the back of the cap where the cap clash would be. On the neck there may be a chunk missing. On the reverse could you take a close up from the wing to the N of IN? Thanks!
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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by JASONKFLO » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pm

collectinsince65 wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:36 pm
Here they are Wayne
Hope they help

Mike





1889 vam 7a obv.jpg
that is a really nice coin looks under graded
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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by Options25 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:02 am

Oh my, wow just wow. One day, this is on my list to find. Huge congrats.

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by collectinsince65 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:13 pm

Hey Wayne
Couple more images
Hope they help
Mike
1889 vam 7a obv neck crop.jpg
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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by collectinsince65 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:22 pm

Two more images Wayne
1889 vam 7a obv neck tip crop.jpg
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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by PacificWR » Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:34 pm

Mike,

The close-up photo of the neck says it all. There is no doubt it is the same obverse die as VAM-23A. Thanks for posting the photos it sure answered a lot of questions and opened the door for others. Think I know the story on the reverse die.

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by vampicker » Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:16 pm

You guys are trodding right into active research that got stymied by Leroy's situation due to COVID. I wanted to do this in person, but now I feel I have to launch preemptive strike just to keep the details straight. Still refuse to put the 23A loaner in the mail. I have the details worked out and all the actual pieces in hand. The tentative listings that were already done are only part of the real story here.
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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by PacificWR » Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:19 am

vampicker wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:16 pm
You guys are trodding right into active research that got stymied by Leroy's situation due to COVID. I wanted to do this in person, but now I feel I have to launch preemptive strike just to keep the details straight. Still refuse to put the 23A loaner in the mail. I have the details worked out and all the actual pieces in hand. The tentative listings that were already done are only part of the real story here.
Yeah I kind of figured that out when there was very little response. You know it would probably be a good idea when a study like this is under way to create a post and let the rest of the VAM community know. In short, I think I have the obverse die figured out and with the remaining puzzle pieces coming in the mail (on the reverse die) I should have a good handle on the reverse die I will keep the finding to myself. I do not blame for not wanting to send the 1889-P VAM-23A in the mail. I would not do that either. You may be in for a long wait.

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by vampicker » Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:40 am

It has been mentioned, including in this thread.
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Post by PacificWR » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:20 am

vampicker wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:40 am
It has been mentioned, including in this thread.
Like I stated above creating a new topic with a little information like the general purpose of the study and the folks involved would let the VAM community know a study is in the works. I would venture to say most folks do not read every single post or attend the Fun Show or other coin shows. Whenever I have an update to my 1900-S die study I create a new post and share the latest findings with the VAM community.

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by andywoj00 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:22 pm

If it lends to this thread, here are links to my 1889-P V23B and V23D. Gonna reshoot the LFCP's later on.

I may have a V23C, but I cannot capture that transfer as shown at the plate photo. However, the coin shows a double clash line at the jawline and a single clash line a bit below it. Can I assume the single clash mark is representative of where the n transfer would be? What I see is what shows on the additional photo at the VAM-23C page.
Any info and feedback is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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http://www.silverdye.us/wiki/Main/PhPa1889V23BAW111617

http://www.silverdye.us/wiki/Main/PhPa1889V23DAW082317

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Post by PacificWR » Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:08 pm

Andy you and Rod hit a homerun every time you take photos (SDP). The details are just remarkable. Your photos on what you are calling VAM-23D EDS prove without a doubt the obverse die used on VAM-23A is the same one used on VAM-23D. The photos just blew the door off the hinges. The damage to the neck and back of the cap are still there. On the reverse....let's just say for now it is very interesting. Thanks a million.
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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by LorenAlbert » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:23 pm

Boom!

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by RMG1883CC » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:56 pm

Must be an SD’er — How about Boom city 🤣

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by vamsterdam » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:29 pm

in all of the literally thousands of vams i have picked, NOT ONE was a 1889 vam 23a! wow! now that would make me lose my poker face!

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by PacificWR » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:47 pm

vamsterdam wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:29 pm
in all of the literally thousands of vams i have picked, NOT ONE was a 1889 vam 23a! wow! now that would make me lose my poker face!
I could not pay for the coin fast enough and get home. It was unreal.

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by kepi » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:06 pm

What a great find! Congrats! I'm new here...feeling my way around ; )

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by PacificWR » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:03 am

kepi wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:06 pm
What a great find! Congrats! I'm new here...feeling my way around ; )
Thank you and welcome aboard!

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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Post by fogie » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:07 am

Congratulations!!

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Post by PacificWR » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:25 pm

fogie wrote:
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Congratulations!!
Thank you.

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