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1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
- LorenAlbert
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Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
Looks as if the denticles were cut too deeply. Each raised tooth is really a cut into the die. If the cut is too deep it could interfere with rim formation next to the collar. Suggests haste in doing the work....common enough in 1921 Morgans.
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Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
Thank you. I have always been a bit fuzzy about the denticles, rim, and collar. It seems that I need to get back to the books. The "denticles were cut too deeply." Does this apply to the working die or a hub? Are the denticles, rim, and collar covered in "Mine to Mint?"
Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
This would likely be in the working die when someone did repair or touch-up work. Denticles are part of the design and thus part of the hub.
The subjects are discussed in From Mine to Mint, but I don't think this specific detail is mentioned. (I will put that on the list for FMTM-2.)
May I use your photo and credit line in FMTM-2 ?
The subjects are discussed in From Mine to Mint, but I don't think this specific detail is mentioned. (I will put that on the list for FMTM-2.)
May I use your photo and credit line in FMTM-2 ?
Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
Wow! Superfine photo. Good information, too.
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Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
What I like most about my 32A is the mini rim cuds under the date:
When in doubt... don't.
- LorenAlbert
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Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
Excellent details on photo ! Flow lines below denticles from 3:00 to 9:00 indicate movement of obverse die when strike was initiated. AKA - STRIKE DOUBLING
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Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
My Photo. Use whatever you need to get the info out....Andy (andywoj00)RogerB wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:45 pmThis would likely be in the working die when someone did repair or touch-up work. Denticles are part of the design and thus part of the hub.
The subjects are discussed in From Mine to Mint, but I don't think this specific detail is mentioned. (I will put that on the list for FMTM-2.)
May I use your photo and credit line in FMTM-2 ?
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Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
This is a pretty common feature fwiw.. When I was green I sent a new die pair in to the big guy and mentioned this feature in my write up as also having a possible collar clash. In his return letter he called it, and im paraphrasing here, "a striking error, which is not listable."
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Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
nice coin-interesting--what set up do you use to get these great photos--thank you
Re: 1921-P VAM-32A Rectangles at Base of Denticular Clefts?
Thanks to all for the compliments on the pic. LOTS of great pics by other members on this board at the Vamworld wiki.
I have a Canon DSLR with a 100mm macro lens set up on a modified Bausch and Lomb stereo microscope stand.
This particular coin was fairly easy to shoot as the lighting cooperated with the coin topography. Alot of times it's a real fight to shoot LFCPs and get the details to show in support of the related VAM characteristics.
I do regionals as well that can be seen at the Silverdye link above. Lots of cool coins and pics there from other SD members that frequent this board...check it out....Andy