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1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:17 am
by indian4
This would typically be a 37a2 I found the rev to be pretty badly cracked. My questions are :

1. Do any of the cracks show displacement other than on the obverse. I plan on using this coin for myself for comparison.

2. Does it matter other than the cracks are interesting?

Chime in Roger I found you have a broad base of knowledge.

Any help is always appreciated.

Re: 1884-o ? 23b Does it matter?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:19 am
by indian4
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Re: 1884-o ? 23b Does it matter?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:01 am
by RogerRock
Reverse die crack between S and O (STATES OF) shows tiny die chips . The other die crack at ED (UNITED) also shows tiny die chips developing along the crack. These chips are typically an indication of die crack progression . However, there is no field displacement (yet) that can be seen on these two reverse locations.

Re: 1884-o ? 23b Does it matter?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:16 am
by indian4
I find cracks on coins interesting. This coin supposedly came out of a complete roll, all the same date and mint. It would be interesting to see if any of the others had cracks like this.

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:57 am
by indian4
Loren just pointed out a mistake I made. You know I hate him for that. its a 37a2 not 23b. I started moving to quick. Stuff happens.

Thanks Loren a#$&%$!

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:04 am
by LorenAlbert
indian4 wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:57 am
Thanks Loren a#$&%$!
Oh no! I better get things in order.

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:50 pm
by JASONKFLO
I thought it might be as it looks similar to mine but I am not as knowledgeable on these yet to speak out haha

Re: 1884-o ? 23b Does it matter?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:29 am
by RogerRock
indian4 wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:16 am
I find cracks on coins interesting. This coin supposedly came out of a complete roll, all the same date and mint. It would be interesting to see if any of the others had cracks like this.
Die cracks portray the blueprint for many interesting varieties. My post on Key Date 1921 Sleeper Pick contains several obverse photos of a die crack extending from nose - lips - chin - 2nd left star. This crack caught my attention when I first viewed the coin because I didn't recognize it as one I had ever seen on a 1921 P. This PUP lead me straight to the VAM 8B Page. Die crack maps on the Page prove to be a tremendous tool in attribution. Scribble VAMS can sometimes be identified just by their die crack maps.

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:45 pm
by indian4
Roger, I remember reading that these coins were originally transported from the mint in bags which makes sense. At what point would they have gone into rolls? I'm guessing at banks and payroll offices?

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:52 pm
by hallco
Since the owner and operator of "Crack City" has not given the link in this thread as of yet, I will do the honors! I visit the City often and YOU should as well! :) I think I unintentionally started building this as a set a couple of years ago. I Love it! And....more are considered for inclusion regularly from what I understand. Enjoy!

http://silverdye.us/wiki/Main/CrackCityHome

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:13 pm
by RMG1883CC
Thanks for adding the link!! Crack City has been fun for me. Appreciate your interest for sure. Maybe another resident soon👍

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:19 pm
by RMG1883CC
Hey Ron - it’s me Ron 1883,,,, hit your discovery Thread. Probably didn’t know it was me

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:23 pm
by indian4
God bless you Ron. Where you been?

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:38 pm
by RMG1883CC
I’ll PM you later or tomorrow and get you caught up. Stay safe my friend

Re: 1884-o ? 37a2 Does it matter?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:25 pm
by indian4
Don't go hangin out on street corners smoking cigars and drinking beer.

Wait a minute, that sounds pretty good.