83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

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83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by JASONKFLO » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:21 am

Appreciate your thoughts on this coin.It is not attributed but it looks like either 36 or 36a. It looks like there is something where the partial e clash would be but hard to see and not much there. Maybe a late die state 36A?
Anyways I think I got a bargain on this one regardless of the vam .
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by JASONKFLO » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:22 am

more pics
thanks as always for your thoughts
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by Tekkie1 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:40 am

VAM 36A.
And in MS-64+ to boot.
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by JASONKFLO » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:51 am

yes 67.00 PCGS graded 64+
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by Tekkie1 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:52 am

Cool.
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by dave700x » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:21 pm

The last state of 36A before the E completely disappears and reverts to what I consider v36. Nice pick for the dinero! 8-)

Now go find an EDS example... ;)
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by LorenAlbert » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:36 pm

dave700x wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:21 pm
The last state of 36A before the E completely disappears and reverts to what I consider v36. Nice pick for the dinero! 8-)
A polemic suggestion. I happen to agree. Except, that the E does not "completely" disappear. And "last state" may equal new stage. A picture of the cap top may be of interest.
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by JASONKFLO » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:43 pm

Once the coin arrives I’ll get some pics . I will be sending this to @messydesk for attribution to as well as a few others I’ll possibly pay to have him photo it as well
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by CascadeChris » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:12 pm

JASONKFLO wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:43 pm
Once the coin arrives I’ll get some pics . I will be sending this to @messydesk for attribution to as well as a few others I’ll possibly pay to have him photo it as well
If you're sending him any with gorgeous liquidy luster, concave fields, exceptional toning etc. Basically coins with PQ eye appeal and/or something beautifully extraordinary about the surfaces... HAVE HIM DO A .gif of the coin. It costs just a little extra and man are they just plain awesome.. and just plain fun to share online and watch the responses 😎

Here's the first one he did for me. The 82s v36 DC with intense concave obv in PCGS ms67...

Rock-a-Bye Baby.. baby! 😛😋🤤

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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by JASONKFLO » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:50 pm

CascadeChris wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:12 pm
JASONKFLO wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:43 pm
Once the coin arrives I’ll get some pics . I will be sending this to @messydesk for attribution to as well as a few others I’ll possibly pay to have him photo it as well
If you're sending him any with gorgeous liquidy luster, concave fields, exceptional toning etc. Basically coins with PQ eye appeal and/or something beautifully extraordinary about the surfaces... HAVE HIM DO A .gif of the coin. It costs just a little extra and man are they just plain awesome.. and just plain fun to share online and watch the responses 😎

Here's the first one he did for me. The 82s v36 DC with intense concave obv in PCGS ms67...

Rock-a-Bye Baby.. baby! 😛😋🤤


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thats a nice coin
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by dave700x » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:27 pm

LorenAlbert wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:36 pm
dave700x wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:21 pm
The last state of 36A before the E completely disappears and reverts to what I consider v36. Nice pick for the dinero! 8-)
A polemic suggestion. I happen to agree. Except, that the E does not "completely" disappear. And "last state" may equal new stage. A picture of the cap top may be of interest.
So is the last remnant of the E present on the 36B?
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by LorenAlbert » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:37 pm

dave700x wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:27 pm
LorenAlbert wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:36 pm
dave700x wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:21 pm
The last state of 36A before the E completely disappears and reverts to what I consider v36. Nice pick for the dinero! 8-)
A polemic suggestion. I happen to agree. Except, that the E does not "completely" disappear. And "last state" may equal new stage. A picture of the cap top may be of interest.
So is the last remnant of the E present on the 36B?
Therein lies the rub. If the E is present, can it be of a 36B? As you know doubt know, the 36B is the killed 1H. The 1H is the repaired 36A. Thus, 36B marks a stage. Yes, under my loupe, the clashed E is visible on the 1H. I doubt that the E would be attributed if the 1H was a new submission. Nonetheless, I have seen the 1H stage attributed as a 36A. I would have found it more parsimonious had the 1H been treated as a reverted 36 to fill the 36 nest. As I recall, a non-reverted base 36 is nearly impossible given the 22/36 progression. The III2-19 obverse would need to be found with a different C3a die. Or there needs to be a different III2-19/C3a die pair that satisfies the classification and the attribution. A non-reverted 36 seems unlikely to ever be demonstrated.

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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by pup_picker » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am

CascadeChris wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:12 pm
Here's the first one he did for me. The 82s v36 DC with intense concave obv in PCGS ms67...
is that one the top pop known discovery coin? air is thin for gem unc dc! gratz

not sure about dc dc. deep cam disoveries ;)

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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by CascadeChris » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:06 am

pup_picker wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am
CascadeChris wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:12 pm
Here's the first one he did for me. The 82s v36 DC with intense concave obv in PCGS ms67...
is that one the top pop known discovery coin? air is thin for gem unc dc! gratz

not sure about dc dc. deep cam disoveries ;)
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by pup_picker » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:15 pm

CascadeChris wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:06 am
Yuppers
i would like to re-ask my question after reading it.

i mean is it the highest graded dc of any vam discovery morgan? not just for the vam or year. ty

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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by CascadeChris » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:12 pm

pup_picker wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:15 pm
CascadeChris wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:06 am
Yuppers
i would like to re-ask my question after reading it.

i mean is it the highest graded dc of any vam discovery morgan? not just for the vam or year. ty
Oh, I wouldn't be the one to answer that but I highly doubt it. There has to be a 67+ or maybe 68 DC out there. Hell, maybe even one of the 69's? @messydesk or @vampicker might be able to add some info.
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by messydesk » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:51 am

If I had an MS69 Morgan, I wouldn't be looking to get a new VAM assigned to it.
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Re: 83 o vam 36 or 36 a?

Post by CascadeChris » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:24 am

messydesk wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:51 am
If I had an MS69 Morgan, I wouldn't be looking to get a new VAM assigned to it.
Right. But Jack Lee did own one or two. That was my thought process anyway :lol:
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