To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

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To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by djf-coins » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:12 pm

Note the nublit of the tail,
Is this a VAM 25, VAM 25A Early Die State, or VAM 25A?
Most importantly, why?

Thank you... David

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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by vampicker » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:31 pm

VAM 25 if it crossed my desk
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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by messydesk » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:59 pm

Not to be. You have to have the full die break.
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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by Vam-mysterio » Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:51 pm

The vam 25
Has at least 4 die stages
The veds (I have 1 in au showing pl fields)
The eds where the die cracks barely shows
One that has full die cracks but no tail yet
And this one(the one you’re showing)
I believe this stage’s right before it Formed into a tail die break
To be the vam 25A it needs to be the vlds die break with the full tail

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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by messydesk » Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:00 pm

Vam-mysterio wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:51 pm
The vam 25
Has at least 4 die stages...
So how does the foggy outline around the 7 that looks like it could have been a 6 develop over these stages?
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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by Vam-mysterio » Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:37 pm

I’ll have to look into it
But I believe is just die wear/erosion
Resembling part of a 6
Just like an overdate 7/6

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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by raynat3 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:33 pm

I looked for this earlier die stage for a while but have not found it. Is it scarce?

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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by Vam-mysterio » Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:12 pm

This is the second especimen I’ve seen
Thru the years
Seems this stage is pretty scarce

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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by JohnGoldsmith » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:49 am

vampicker wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:31 pm
VAM 25 if it crossed my desk
If it crossed your desk twice, would that count being double crossed? :lol:

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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by vampicker » Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:48 pm

Add some circulation grime and you have a dirty double crosser
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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by messydesk » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:05 pm

vampicker wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:48 pm
Add some circulation grime and you have a dirty double crosser
Make it perishable circulation grime, and before long it'll be a dirty, rotten double crosser.
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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by vamsterdam » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:08 pm

i've seen a number of these and left all but one of them. they are out there...

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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by vampicker » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:48 pm

the coins, or the dirty rotten double crossers?
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Re: To be or not to be an 1887 Donkey Tail

Post by impairedsquirrel » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:09 pm

vampicker wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:48 pm
the coins, or the dirty rotten double crossers?
And, if it's the latter, which one did you keep? ...And why?
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