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Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
by ljs123
I have not been excited about finding a coin in some time. But this one really got me when I saw it.
1880-P fans, this is one rare 80-P. :D :D :D
For your pleasure, photos of a VAM-53, not a VAM-53A that PCGS labels as a 53.

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Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:00 pm
by colwillys
Throw it back there is coloring all over the coin :lol: :lol: :lol: .. I will give you a YOU SUCK .
Super Nice Coin .

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:12 pm
by CascadeChris
I've heard the 53 is a rare bird. I have a 53A in PCGS 63 (I think) I've been meaning to maybe throw up on the BST for a while but haven't yet. Is the 53A on the same level or similar as the 53 or is the 53 the one most want?

What a sexy example too Lee! 😎

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:13 pm
by DHalladay
colwillys wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:00 pm
Throw it back there is coloring all over the coin :lol: :lol: :lol: .. I will give you a YOU SUCK .
Super Nice Coin .
I will second that. Congrats Lee!

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:17 pm
by ljs123
CascadeChris wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:12 pm
I've heard the 53 is a rare bird. I have a 53A in PCGS 63 (I think) I've been meaning to maybe throw up on the BST for a while but haven't yet. Is the 53A on the same level or similar as the 53 or is the 53 the one most want?

What a sexy example too Lee! 😎
Thanks Tom, Chris and Dennis. I'm super happy about this pick. And I did cherry pick this one. It was not in the attributed holder. By the end of the auction it was clear that at least one other knew it was a 53. But I still got it for much less than it could be sold for now. No, I'm not selling.

Chris,
I can only answer by my experience with constant looking for VAM-53, 53A, and 29s. They are something that I have looked for constantly. When I first started looking at VAMs I got a clashed 1880 in a Global holder. I didn't know what I had, but Pete and Mitch gave me advise about my coin. It turned out it was a VAM-53A that I cracked out and is now in a PCGS MS-62 holder. So began my obsession with 53, 53A, and 29s. I've picked a few, but I have always been hunting an MS VAM-53 (or any problem free VAM-53). Now I have it. My experience tells me that VAM-53As are the easiest to find of the three VAMs (the single clashed version harder to find than the double clashed version). VAM-29 a bit more rare, and the VAM-53 very hard to find. This is the first MS that I have found. Of all the PCGS attributed VAM-53s that I have ever seen quality photos of, only 2 are VAM-53s. My MS-63PL and the MS-64PL on the PCGS site. The SSDC census shows 6 VAM-53s and 16 VAM-53As. Of the 6 VAM-53s, 3 are ANACS, two are PCGS, and one is NGC. My coin is the only 53 with photos to show it is a 53.

I'm not sure about which one is wanted more by others. If they want it for PCGS sets, it likely doesn't make a difference because they label both as VAM-53. But I can tell you that this is a much bigger find in my book than a 53A.

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:29 pm
by vamhusker
Congrats Lee! You are the clash King even though this one isn’t clashed😉

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:49 pm
by CascadeChris
Thanks for the rundown Lee :)

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:56 pm
by vamnuke
8-)

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:03 pm
by ljs123
CascadeChris wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:49 pm
Thanks for the rundown Lee :)

Chris,
Maybe we will get lucky and one of the Pros will answer your question better than I.

JB @messydesk
JR @vampicker

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:12 pm
by playtime1
Nice coin Lee

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:56 am
by messydesk
ljs123 wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:03 pm
CascadeChris wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:49 pm
Thanks for the rundown Lee :)

Chris,
Maybe we will get lucky and one of the Pros will answer your question better than I.

JB @messydesk
JR @vampicker
Short answer is that people who want clashes want the 53A. People who know better want the 53. Sort of like the 78 VAM 14.1 situation.

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:58 am
by bjsilverfox
Lee, that is a great pick and IMHO undergraded.

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:14 am
by CascadeChris
messydesk wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:56 am
ljs123 wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:03 pm
CascadeChris wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:49 pm
Thanks for the rundown Lee :)

Chris,
Maybe we will get lucky and one of the Pros will answer your question better than I.

JB @messydesk
JR @vampicker
Short answer is that people who want clashes want the 53A. People who know better want the 53. Sort of like the 78 VAM 14.1 situation.
Short, concise and on point. Perfect way to look at it JB 👌

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:02 am
by vampicker
Hell, I'd be happy with either version. It took several sets of eyes and a few trips for coins to Sidney to sort out the differences between VAMs 16, 29 and 53/53A. But yeah, VAM 53 appears to be the rarer version.

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:42 pm
by Mhomei
YOU SUCK!!!
excellent find Lee

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:01 pm
by bigjayvee
Excellent Lee,and one helluva a coin !!!!!! I'm jealous. Nice pick. Congrats !!!!

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:15 pm
by ljs123
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you all for your encouraging comments.
I was super happy to get this one! :P

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:56 pm
by vamsterdam
Well, now i know who one it! That is an awesome coin! Great eye appeal, coupled with rarity. I know who the other bidder was who saw it.

Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:04 pm
by CascadeChris
Found it. Figured I'd post it here as a visual add to the conversation Lee. But, I feel so unworthy. My measly, fugly, pure crap 53A in 3 vs your 53 toner! in 3PL 😖😰 :lol:

You SUCKY SUCK! 😎

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Re: Rare 80-P arrived

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:27 pm
by ljs123
vamsterdam wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:56 pm
Well, now i know who one it! That is an awesome coin! Great eye appeal, coupled with rarity. I know who the other bidder was who saw it.
Hi Brian,
I was a pretty aggressive bidder for this one. Glad the other guy gave up before me. :D :D :D