1883-o - Beveled Tail Feathers - Confirmed 44A

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1883-o - Beveled Tail Feathers - Confirmed 44A

Post by jgrinz » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:33 pm

I believe I have a 44A
I do not think I know what beveled tail feathers looks like, are these those ??

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Double Clash


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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by lured_in_again » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:02 pm

nice looking photos, but I don't have an opinion that anyone seems to pay attention to.
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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by UncleGildy » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:20 am

Yes, those are beveled TF. Capturing the over polishing in a photo might be a little tricky, but note that the listing comment states "Latest die state showing full beveled field under tail feathers."

The more important factor is the clashed 't'. I assume you can see that on the obverse.

If so, then at a minimum, I believe you have a VAM-44A, but not the latest state. And that's just my vote.

Awesome photos of the (triple) clash at the neck btw!

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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by jgrinz » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:02 pm

UncleGildy wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:20 am
Yes, those are beveled TF. Capturing the over polishing in a photo might be a little tricky, but note that the listing comment states "Latest die state showing full beveled field under tail feathers."

The more important factor is the clashed 't'. I assume you can see that on the obverse.

If so, then at a minimum, I believe you have a VAM-44A, but not the latest state. And that's just my vote.

Awesome photos of the (triple) clash at the neck btw!
Yeah "T" is there
Thanks for your thoughts
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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by VamHelsing » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:42 pm

I'm not seeing beveled TFs.

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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by jgrinz » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:14 pm

VamHelsing wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:42 pm
I'm not seeing beveled TFs.
Can you please post some, preferably from your own collection.
Some pictures of them are lacking on this site and obviously have a discrepancy
of opinions here
ty sirs
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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by UncleGildy » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:23 pm

You can also search VW for the word "beveled", and you'll be able to see a very large number of examples.

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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by jgrinz » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:30 pm

UncleGildy wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:23 pm
You can also search VW for the word "beveled", and you'll be able to see a very large number of examples.
I have not mastered the search function here - thanks
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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by RogerRock » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:50 am

See 1921 P VAM 26A-29A-68A for beveled field photo examples.
A beveled field appears as an elevated,sloping,shiny, polished area. This area has been polished on the
die in an effort to remove damage usually from feeder finger gouges! The device mentioned is only for
location reference. The tail feathers themselves are not beveled, the field below the tail feathers is beveled.
READ the description!!
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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by jgrinz » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:19 am

RogerRock wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:50 am
See 1921 P VAM 26A-29A-68A for beveled field photo examples.
A beveled field appears as an elevated,sloping,shiny, polished area. This area has been polished on the
die in an effort to remove damage usually from feeder finger gouges! The device mentioned is only for
location reference. The tail feathers themselves are not beveled, the field below the tail feathers is beveled.
READ the description!!
Going to a different coin year isn't helpful
Looks like a 1883-o VAM-57 has a nice picture for me on what one would like look on the same coin.
Thanks for your input though
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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers ?

Post by dave700x » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:34 am

1888-O VAM-7B is a good example. I had one once and traded it to someone working on an 1888-O set.
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Re: 1883-o - Bevelled Tail Feathers - Confirmed 44A

Post by jgrinz » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:13 am

dave700x wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:34 am
1888-O VAM-7B is a good example. I had one once and traded it to someone working on an 1888-O set.
Yes it is and I do believe we have confirmed beveled feathers 44A
Appears to be beveled
The Olive branch and 3-4 feathers from the branch.
Son of gun getting the correct angle to see though
thank for the help
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