1921-P D1 scribbles help needed

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DHalladay
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1921-P D1 scribbles help needed

Post by DHalladay » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:10 pm

Mitch recently sent me this D1 reverse to attribute, but I'm stumped. I wouldn't put it past him to have done it just to mess with me. Can anyone help thwart his evil plan?

There are some scribbles, but like most D1 VAMs they aren't very numerous or bold. Ignore the staple scratch:
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There's a fair amount of doubling (tripling?) on STATES and AMERICA, and the wreath leaf tips under AMERICA also look to have some doubling:
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There appears to be pitting between the 2 top arrowheads, a gouge to the left of arrowhead #2, and a small gouge under the talon on the viewer's right.
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Kissov
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Re: 1921-P D1 scribbles help needed

Post by Kissov » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:25 pm

Try VAM-109.

DHalladay
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Re: 1921-P D1 scribbles help needed

Post by DHalladay » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:40 pm

Kissov wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:25 pm
Try VAM-109.
There are parts of VAM 109 that are a fit, but there are others that aren't.
Mitch's coin doesn't have lines above the ribbon or doubled/tripled stars. And while the scribbles in the right opening look like a match, the ones in the left opening don't quite match that I can tell... which I can't begin to understand.

Does someone have a 109 they can refer to and see if the strong polishing lines in the opening next to the eagle's left leg seen in my photo are present on their coin?
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Re: 1921-P D1 scribbles help needed

Post by Kissov » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:02 pm

I match the scribbles outside the eagle's right leg pretty closely with your example.

There is a diagonal line from the outer toe to the top of the lower leg segment. And there are two semi-parallel lines in the upper left corner of that space that appear to match yours.

Also, the space just above the space outside the eagle's right leg has scribbles that closely match your example. I'm not sure how reliable this space is for distinguishing scribbles, but it does match yours pretty well.

Since yours appears to be a fairly LDS example, I wonder if the obverse doubling has simply worn away?

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