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1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:31 pm
by vampicker
I have the coin on my desk today. The LDS of VAM 70 got listed as 70A. The discovery piece is marginally PL.

We could use a new page set up.

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:51 pm
by andywoj00
I'll set it up...Andy

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:08 pm
by vampicker
Beautiful, thanks Andy

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:21 pm
by andywoj00
Done. Are you going to shoot some LFCPs? @vampicker

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:38 pm
by bobbyjenkins
Wow...Anything new in the 78-P is a big deal to me. Congratulations on that find and new attribution. The reverse die breaks are so cool, I can just imagine the die giving away at any moment after this strike.

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:44 pm
by collectinsince65
Cool
Another 78 to look for!
Mike

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:14 pm
by vampicker
OK, here goes

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:20 pm
by RogerRock
vampicker wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:31 pm
I have the coin on my desk today. The LDS of VAM 70 got listed as 70A. The discovery piece is marginally PL.

We could use a new page set up.
This listing 70A is called EDS by LVA. Vampicker says LDS. Which is it ?

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:27 pm
by vampicker
I looked at the VAM 70 page and we seem to have a couple of examples up that aren't as cracked as this. If this is the EDS, then they all qualify as 70A. Am I wrong?

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:38 pm
by bigjayvee
Very Nice JR., Congrats!!! Here's some pics from an example I have. Cracked around the whole circumference as you said and little die breaks btw most of the reverse letters !!!! Check out the break btw "E,D" of UNITED and "A,M" of AMERICA!!!!
VAM 70A,
jv 1878 7TF v70A AM 02-13-2020.jpg
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no?

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:38 am
by Mhomei
its the spitting image of my 63 DMPL.
Does yours have a obverse crack from S of PLURIBUS to the text stop?

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:49 am
by Mhomei
Snapped these real quick
Jr- did you submit this to LVA?
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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:14 am
by vamnuke
Back to the hunt!

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:35 am
by vampicker
No, this was a customer's coin

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:00 am
by vamnuke
But will check what I have in the box...

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:06 am
by andywoj00
vampicker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:35 am
No, this was a customer's coin
Does this person want credit for the discovery? The page currently has you shown as discover. LMK and thanks.....Andy

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:46 am
by alefzero
It appears my PCGS 62PL is a 70A. Interesting.

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:09 am
by alefzero
Brent was updating the Registry. I augmented the effort to get all the right sets updated to include it. It should be fully and properly represented now.

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:52 am
by weth
My DMPL example has those breaks.
I also have a non-prooflike, later die state example where the breaks are slightly stronger and thicker. Hmmmm.

It seems unwise to send in singular coins to LVA for a die stage revision; there should be EDS/LDS examples to show clear differentiation.

Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:56 am
by blh74
Mine is now a 62PL