Need Help identify this 1883 cc possible vam

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Kcf9572
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Need Help identify this 1883 cc possible vam

Post by Kcf9572 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:04 pm

I can not find these markings in any vam. Any one have any insights. This is a gsa 1883 cc

Thanks!
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weth
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Re: Need Help identify this 1883 cc possible vam

Post by weth » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:51 pm

The flashing at the wingtips indicates that this is somewhere in the VAM 5 spectrum.
It could be a VAM 5B, but check the back of the cap for counterclash, as it looks like this is more likely VAM 5D.

Kcf9572
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Re: Need Help identify this 1883 cc possible vam

Post by Kcf9572 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:05 pm

Here is a picture from under the cap. I can’t tell if this is a “clash”

There is also a mark by the 8 in second 8.
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jgrinz
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Re: Need Help identify this 1883 cc possible vam

Post by jgrinz » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:11 am

I am sorry but these are not good enough pictures for me to help.
If go back in history of these posts I just attributed my 1883cc as a 5A
Dont know if it will help you much as mine is with out the wing star bursts.
It will help you show you what type of pictures will help identify your coin.
Phone cameras do very well just keep working with it.
cheers
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weth
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Re: Need Help identify this 1883 cc possible vam

Post by weth » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:03 pm

The VAM 5 subdivisions are a bit of a dog's breakfast, mostly since VAM 5 went through so many stages. It started out pristine and prooflike but with some polishing lines (5) then got clashed (5A), then some repeated cycles of polishing (back to 5) and clashing (5A if there was transfer of the n and t). At some point there was a stronger polishing stage (5B), then another, stronger clash (5C). After that, it was presumably polished again (taking it back to 5). The photos on the VAM 5D page show what appear to be three light clashes, as well as the break at the cap. Presumably, everything after the 5C was polished and before the 5D cap break would fall back to being a VAM 5. So you could call your example VAM 5 LDS, or VAM 5D EDS, if you like.

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Re: Need Help identify this 1883 cc possible vam

Post by jgrinz » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:22 pm

weth wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:03 pm
The VAM 5 subdivisions are a bit of a dog's breakfast, mostly since VAM 5 went through so many stages. It started out pristine and prooflike but with some polishing lines (5) then got clashed (5A), then some repeated cycles of polishing (back to 5) and clashing (5A if there was transfer of the n and t). At some point there was a stronger polishing stage (5B), then another, stronger clash (5C). After that, it was presumably polished again (taking it back to 5). The photos on the VAM 5D page show what appear to be three light clashes, as well as the break at the cap. Presumably, everything after the 5C was polished and before the 5D cap break would fall back to being a VAM 5. So you could call your example VAM 5 LDS, or VAM 5D EDS, if you like.
I like that answer heheh
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