1881-O January and More on Double Die

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1881-O January and More on Double Die

Post by HawkeEye » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:43 pm

Well the newsletter for January is up and covers a number of topics. http://www.1881o.com/2020-01.html

1. The pricing information has been updated, and this definitely was a read and weep year! http://www.1881o.com/pricing.html
2. Three more VAMs have been examined for our "Die Fingerprint" (cracks) study.
3. As mentioned elsewhere, we got some insight into a specific type of die doubling from Roger Burdette and his comments are included.

Next month we will examine all the VAMs using Reverse Die n http://www.1881o.com/vammatrix.html
This will include VAMs 37, 37A, 37B, 59, and 30.

Enjoy!
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Re: 1881-O January

Post by lured_in_again » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:19 pm

One heck of a lot of information in there, thanks for posting updates each month.

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Re: 1881-O January and More on Double Die

Post by HawkeEye » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:39 pm

Thanks, the information from Roger is especially interesting and I think I have seen this same feature on some of my Morgans but need more research.
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Re: 1881-O January and More on Double Die

Post by morganman » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:07 pm

My poor ol - vam 16 PCGS 64dmpl justs sits here with no interest A travesty IMHO
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Re: 1881-O January and More on Double Die

Post by Mhomei » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:32 am

Scott
V16 have interest but remember
It's a non list variety.

And it's a great grade that is already expensive so premiums are tough
But it will always be worth 64PL money.

Buffed reverses are not 78 P or 78S

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Re: 1881-O January and More on Double Die

Post by HawkeEye » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:57 pm

Where is your V16 posted?
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Re: 1881-O January and More on Double Die

Post by HawkeEye » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:54 am

Found it and I think Mitch has it pegged. Nice coin and VAM but as a non listed VAM it will likely not carry any premium over the grade/eye appeal value. And unfortunately it looks like all the 1881-O values took a hit last year. Usually higher grades hold value, but not last year.
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Re: 1881-O January and More on Double Die

Post by UncleGildy » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:35 am

Our die fingerprints seem to come in handy when we just get stumped on coins and associated VAMs. They also prove to be handy for new collectors and so we continue down that path.
Very much so! Also handy when you're shopping the bay for one thing and recognize a pattern for something else that you just can't recall, but might be one of those "must haves" lower down on your list.

I don't know if everyone realizes it, but there's a graphical fingerprints guide page for Obverse as well Reverse dies here. These pages have saved me a ton of time.

Given there are so many VAMs with OBV die 1 and REV die a, there is another level of fingerprint LFCP's, so don't forget to click on the blue arrows just in case.

The doubling insights and shrinking die concept are interesting. Nice newsletter. Thanks for the great website and valuable resource.

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Re: 1881-O January and More on Double Die

Post by HawkeEye » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:23 pm

There is a really interesting podcast on CoinWeek this week that deals with the cost/profit issues around coin collecting. This podcast deals with a lot of different aspects of the hobby and what the underlying issues are for dealers and collectors.

I did an update to the PCGS price list this month and the problems there are echoed in this podcast.

https://coinweek.com/coinweek-podcast/c ... t-travers/
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