1921-P VAM 1Q pix needed

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DHalladay
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1921-P VAM 1Q pix needed

Post by DHalladay » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:34 am

Does anyone have a 1921-P VAM 1Q?

Could you post a photo of what LVA describes here on the reverse:
Die Marker- Diagonal polishing line connecting bottom of second right tail feather between legs to top arrow shaft. Heavy polishing lines in upper tail feathers.
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Kissov
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Re: 1921-P VAM 1Q pix needed

Post by Kissov » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:07 pm

I don't have one, but this is one of the scribbles varieties that I always pass by since there are no photos.

The description of the die marker is not quite clear to me. I assume the "...second right tail feather between legs..." is the second upper tail feather (counting from the right to left) which would make sense since these are adjacent to the arrow shafts.

And the rest of the description is a bit confusing (to me, at least) with the standard "Fine die scratches in various directions on over polished tail feathers around eagle's right leg" but then "Heavy polishing lines in upper tail feathers".

Digging through my "I don't know what they are" box I found this beat up D1 reverse:

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There is some sort of line from near the top of the 2nd upper tail feather, through the 1st upper tail feather, and intersecting the arrow shaft. Doesn't match the description of the die marker for 1Q.

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Re: 1921-P VAM 1Q pix needed

Post by DHalladay » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:48 pm

The official description is next to meaningless by itself. Photos of something are a must.
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weth
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Re: 1921-P VAM 1Q pix needed

Post by weth » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:23 am

Hey Dennis,

I posted the full coin photos some time ago on the 1Q page (VSS attributed), so I can try to get better close-ups. I can see what LVA was talking about, although it will be hard to get a great picture of the gouge - it's probably pretty vivid on an EDS example, but mine is a bit more on the MDS/LDS side. (If you wanted detail photos, maybe you should have took 'em when you had this one in your possession not too long ago!)

Tom / weth

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Re: 1921-P VAM 1Q pix needed

Post by weth » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:37 am

Two faint parallel lines connect the second feather up to the center of the arrowhead.
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Some polishing lines in the wing
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Yeah, they're hard to see in this photo - sorry. I can try to shoot for better magnification tomorrow at work.

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Re: 1921-P VAM 1Q pix needed

Post by DHalladay » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:51 am

Thanks for the pixs Tom, and I look forward to perhaps seeing some bigger images.
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Re: 1921-P VAM 1Q pix needed

Post by Kissov » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:38 pm

The description says tail feathers but the gouge originates on wing or leg feathers?

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