Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Flat-Chested » Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:33 pm

Slider: A term meaning the coin simulates a higher grade than it really is. Often a slider has been cleaned, treated, or whizzed to give the appearance of being uncirculated. Worth less than the coin that has not been cleaned or treated. (Cited from: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/what-i ... er.245490/)

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Flat-Chested » Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:49 pm

I'll turn this into a contest and so those who guess correctly can win a “details” San Francisco VAM-62 Long Nock. In the event that two or more VAMworld members correctly guess the grade, I will supply additional “details” SF Long Nocks to the first seven correct entrants. You must chose a single numerical grade rather than spew out a range, as shown in my guess:

Flat-Chested's Guess: I believe that the coin is both cleaned and scratched, and that it will come back as “AU50 Details Scratched,” or perhaps “AU50 Details Cleaned,” or “AU50 Details Cleaned and Scratched.”

Observe that my guess lists the coin as a "Details" (problem) coin, and if it comes back as AU50, I will not win a prize.

Good Luck!!!

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Post by colwillys » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:21 pm

MS Details cleaned

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Post by RogerRock » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:40 pm

MS 60 Details Cleaned - Coin spotted on obverse from overdipping and improper rinse! IMO
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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Unc90o » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:19 pm

au58

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Post by Flat-Chested » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:33 pm

A numerical quantity is required for this game, please try again.

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by RogerB » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:11 am

142 Toledo Avenue --- is that a good number?

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:01 am

Flat-Chested wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:49 pm
I'll turn this into a contest and so those who guess correctly can win a “details” San Francisco VAM-62 Long Nock. In the event that two or more VAMworld members correctly guess the grade, I will supply additional “details” SF Long Nocks to the first seven correct entrants. You must chose a single numerical grade rather than spew out a range, as shown in my guess:

Flat-Chested's Guess: I believe that the coin is both cleaned and scratched, and that it will come back as “AU50 Details Scratched,” or perhaps “AU50 Details Cleaned,” or “AU50 Details Cleaned and Scratched.”

Observe that my guess lists the coin as a "Details" (problem) coin, and if it comes back as AU50, I will not win a prize.

Good Luck!!!

-Officially Signed,
Flat-Chested
Game on. I will be sending the 27-D this week under a regular submission and will post with pictures slabbed at 64 or better. I do have an advantage since I have coin in hand. but since you want an exact grade I will to go MS65. If it comes back at 65 an I eligible to win the “details” San Francisco VAM-62 Long Nock.

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Tekkie1 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:44 am

A few ill located dings even with the luster to grade in the range you suggest IMHO.
I'm thinking right in the 60/61 range on a good day.
Then again, it's difficult with just pics and not the same as in hand.
Either way, best of luck.

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Post by colwillys » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:44 am

That is what I said MS Detail (60) .. When you get Detail or Genuine their is NO numerical grade .

This new vammer is going to send it to an off breed company not one of the top 3 .

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Post by Truthmatters » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:15 am

colwillys wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:44 am
That is what I said MS Detail (60) .. When you get Detail or Genuine their is NO numerical grade .

This new vammer is going to send it to an off breed company not one of the top 3 .
It will be going to PCGS Regular service level, Genuine with Details sub along with 4-5 others Morgans

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by impairedsquirrel » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:18 am

AU55
I go totally NUTS for WOW! VAMs!! Or is that from WOW! VAMs?

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by lured_in_again » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:40 am

AU - details (55)

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:19 am

Well the results are in, not something I was expecting but:
Genuine UNC Details (97 - Environmental Damage)
Cert # 38942647
See True View with above cert #

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by blh74 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:35 am

I guess Flat-Chested gets to keep all his long knocks. Good idea for a contest.

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Post by RogerRock » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:39 pm

Looks like Colwillys and I got the correct grade with MS 60 Details.
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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by VamHelsing » Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:37 pm

UNC details doesn't mean MS60 details. IMO
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Post by VamHelsing » Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:38 pm

Truth, We tried to tell you... Thanks for posting the results!

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Flat-Chested » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:39 am

So did anybody guess the correct grade?

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by RogerRock » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:06 am

RogerRock wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:39 pm
Looks like Colwillys and I got the correct grade with MS 60 Details.
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