Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

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Truthmatters
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Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:55 pm

I have been a avid reader of VW for 5+ years but only become a member and posting for less that a year.
During this time, I have done a lot of reading and gained much insight as how to look at coins and to try to use logic and restraint in many times as to how asses value and condition of coins. The knowledge here is second to none and I truly appreciated the truthful and honesty that is on display among the many members, which brings me to my further request on how to submit what could be my best auction purchase of my lifetime. I do request that you speak frankly as to your opinion of this coin and how to best submit this coin. So let’s jump in on this 1927-D Liberty 1$ coin.
I have been looking at this Lib for more that a week, looking at other graded coins and have concluded that I am in the position of a MS65 maybe 66 high luster with great eye appeal 27-D. I do want to get some further opinions and thought from this board on this coin and to get information as how to best submit this coin such as what tier, which TPG, and what information to supply when I do send it in. Of the 2 TPG’s PCGS has a pop of 218 MS65, and 13 MS66. NGC pop of 77 MS65, & 4 MS66.
Given that, I would tend to go with PCGS due to the fact that they have a pop of 13 (MS66). Should it come back with a grade lower by a half of full grade, would you call PCGS when the grade shows up and request a reconsideration before it is sent back.
As far as tier, what is the consensus of standard or express. And then there is what to declare as the value for insurance purposes. Would declaring it at what I believe to be a $3,500 (MS65)-$38,000 (MS66) coin.
Attached are some photo’s with different lighting and angles of the full coin all three sides, and please reply with your thoughts and be candor about it, I truly want to get your opinions, am I all wet or is there some merit to my assessment of this coin.
I have some close-ups should you want to see more of what I consider minor bag marks
Thanks
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Truthmatters
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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:58 pm

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:00 pm

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:04 pm

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:07 pm

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:08 pm

Close up Rev
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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:10 pm

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:12 pm

Die gouge on pic "More Close up Rev 6"

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by VamHelsing » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:39 pm

I think you're looking at 62 at best. IMO.

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by RogerB » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:01 am

MS-62. Too many marks and insufficient luster for PCGS or NGC to grade it MS-63.

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:05 am

VamHelsing wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:39 pm
I think you're looking at 62 at best. IMO.
The pictures really do not do this coin justice. There is really only 2 areas where the original luster has bee scuffed and that can be seen in the very first picture on the neck of miss lib and one more at the shoulder. The luster on this is really dazzling that just can't bee seen from my lame attempt to capture here. The field on the Obv has very minute bag marks that I tried to capture in the close ups that fall in the primary focal area. Are these of a consequence that bring you too the conclusion of a MS62. Would you consider them bag marks of scratches. Picture Close up Obv 2 IMG_1911.jpg

Thanks Sir

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by CascadeChris » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:06 am

58
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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by colwillys » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:14 am

I say MS 60 61 .

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Post by VamHelsing » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:21 am

Send it in. Let us know how it grades.

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by impairedsquirrel » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 am

Hate to say it, but I'm with Chris... 58. Though I suck at grading Peace dollars...
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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by blh74 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:16 am

save your time and money. A 61/62.

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Truthmatters » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:15 am

VamHelsing wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:21 am
Send it in. Let us know how it grades.
I fully plan on sending it in and will let you all know how it turns out. Coin in hand say it is a min or 64. Ive been wrong more than right, but we'll see.
Thanks to you all for your input.

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by Flat-Chested » Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:18 am

Details scratched

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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by messydesk » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:57 pm

My gut tells me this would be fine to submit as economy or bulk.
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Re: Looking for wisdom and insight on this 1927-D Peace dollar on how to best sub this coin.

Post by CascadeChris » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:47 pm

impairedsquirrel wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 am
Hate to say it, but I'm with Chris... 58. Though I suck at grading Peace dollars...
I'm at about 60/40 on 58/62. It's a def slider but I'd need to see it in hand. Peace dollars can be tough to accurately photo grade, especially sliders..
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