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Low grade attribution on ANACS holder

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:14 pm
by raynat3
Was wondering about very low grade varieties that the letter transfer is not visible, however many of the clashes that are only present on the particular variety can be seen. Would it still be AOH as the variety?

Re: Low grade attribution on ANACS holder

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:45 pm
by DHalladay
Knowing how good J.R. is, the answer is "probably yes."

Re: Low grade attribution on ANACS holder

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:07 pm
by TheYokel
raynat3 wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:14 pm
Was wondering about very low grade varieties that the letter transfer is not visible, however many of the clashes that are only present on the particular variety can be seen. Would it still be AOH as the variety?
Does the letter in question define the VAM? Or just a part of the overall?

I mean to say that a VAM like the 89-O 24A is defined by the "N"... No "N"... No VAM-24A in my mind.

Conversely if the 89-O 1A1 were missing the "t" being transferred/worn on a particular example... I would think it would still get the label.

Re: Low grade attribution on ANACS holder

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:35 pm
by raynat3
It’s the 87-O 30A. The clash above Dollar in leaves shows enough to know what it is.

Re: Low grade attribution on ANACS holder

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:13 pm
by TheYokel
raynat3 wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:35 pm
It’s the 87-O 30A. The clash above Dollar in leaves shows enough to know what it is.
I feel like there needs to be a special designation for P/G coins that are able to be attributed, but missing many of the sought-after details on the coin. Feels kind of weird seeing a "WOW" coin labeled as such but missing the "WOW", so to say, lol...

TDITD, but I feel like there is a point of diminishment (is that a word?... Is now...) where just because we know what it is, doesn't mean it should qualify, if that makes sense?

Would be like seeing a 83-O labeled as a 22A because the ear chip and cap clash is visible but the reverse has been worn smooth and the E is missing...

Something like "Attributed But Not On Label" or something.

I dunno. Coffee ramblings while getting ready to make gingerbread houses with the foster kids... Ignore me lol.

Re: Low grade attribution on ANACS holder

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:23 pm
by ljs123
Good question Ray.
My opinion is that if there is a marker that only that known clashed VAM has (different from the base VAM), then it would be attributed as such even if you could not see the transfer.

Re: Low grade attribution on ANACS holder

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:37 pm
by alefzero
It can get dicey though. Think of the 1889-O VAM-20B vs VAM-20A. HAd Leroy not chosen to list VAM-20B, they would be VAM-20.

Re: Low grade attribution on ANACS holder

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:49 pm
by vampicker
When I know the clashed version is always a particular VAM. it will get that designation. This is particularly true when the unclashed stage is fairly rare, like the 1878 VAM 14.1