I need help, with my 1887

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bhinkle
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I need help, with my 1887

Post by bhinkle » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:28 am

I have an 1887 ANACSMS64, that I bought,, because I couldn't find a clashed vam,
with a diagonal die crack running down through the O, in DOLLAR, on the reverse.
I think I see a letter clash, below the higher neck clash and here are a lot of pictures of
some very weak clashes, both on the obv and rev.
Any help or comments, would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, Bert
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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by bhinkle » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:32 am

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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by bhinkle » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:37 am

more pics
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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by bhinkle » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:41 am

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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by Kurt28 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:11 am

My best guess would be V-27/27A.

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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by tmanhg » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:20 pm

Bert, if you can see the letter it is a VAM 27A. If you can't see the letter then it's a VAM 27. As LDS as it is I have never been able to see the letter clash on one.

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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by PacificWR » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:57 pm

I agree. It is either a VAM-27 or VAM-27A. Yours maybe an LDS with the die crack running down to the O in DOLLAR. I do have a VAM-27A , but I do not remember the die crack. I'll have to pull mine.

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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by Kissov » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:14 pm

I have a 27/27A that shows strong clash marks and a barely - and I mean barely - visible "n". It does have the crack through the "O" in DOLLAR. Mine does not have the broken "G" in "God" shown in the photo below.

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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by PacificWR » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:08 pm

I'll pull my coin from the SDB and check on the die crack and G.

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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by bhinkle » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:26 am

THANK YOU everyone,
That , (what looks like a G) clash on the neck, took me a good half hour, to try and get a very very faint circle picture and if I moved, just a hair, with the microscope, it disappeared.
I didn't see it at first and only when I angled the light, coming up, from the bottom/left of the coin, did I see that very very faint circle, with my loop, then I spent another half hour, trying to angle my microscope, with the light, from the bottom/left did I see it and captured to two pictures above.
As you all know, it is very exciting, when you finally see something like that, even if it is very faint and get a picture of it.
I hope you find pictures of yours Wayne, to compare.
Thank you everyone again for your help
PS Below is a cropped and enlarged picture, of the seller's obv pic, that I was trying to attribute it with and in addition to the die crack, on the reverse, I could have sworn, that I saw the 7 over 6 over date.
I could see the back/bottom curve, of the 6, coming up, from the right/bottom side and the tiny curve, running out of the left/near bottom side.
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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by PacificWR » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:58 pm

Pulled my VAM-27A today and there is no die crack to the O in "DOLLAR". Bert I would say your specimen is an LDS. Check out the photos below.

1887 P VAM-27A (Click image to view at higher resolution Then click on a region of interest.)
1887-P VAM-27A Obverse. 1887-P VAM-27A Reverse.

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No die crack by O in DOLLAR. Beard & Bat wing clash.
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Clash under Eagles left wing Far date.
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Clash lines by eye. Clash N.
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Re: I need help, with my 1887

Post by bhinkle » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:59 am

Great pictures Wayne, thank you,
A LDS vam 27A it is.
I tried and tried to capture a better and more clear picture, of what I think is a G clash, 'right under' the neck clash, but I had no luck, it is extremely weak or faint and only slightly appears, at one very difficult, to get angle, of my microscope and light. (best, from the bottom/left)
You may have to move your head, from side to side, to see it, on my pictures. (very faint)
Thank you again everyone, Bert
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