1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

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morganman
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1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by morganman » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:36 pm

Finally a ms65 NGC 38B The Top POP after several yrs looking
SSDC shows quite a few ms64 of which i have 6
Exciting to find this rare grade bird
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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by CascadeChris » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:05 pm

Nice get. I love my 67 with the radial extending through the bust, above the cap and almost to the denticles though 😇
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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by ljs123 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:12 am

I'm not saying 38B in 65 is common, but it can be found with a little watching.
I have been watching.
I have seen a few in PCGS MS-65 but they wanted too much.
One in NGC MS-65 sold at the beginning of September, but I did not go for it because it was a poor 65 at best, IMO.

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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by hallco » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:28 pm

I have an NGC 64 that was previously owned by Pete(vamhusker). He obtained the coin from Dr.Kimpton and I love the history of the coin. It was listed by Mark as a 38A in early August of 2009 for auction. As history goes, later that month it would become the 38B...or at least, that is how I understand the timeline. Feel free to correct me if that is not how these things work! :lol: It has been stated that the 7 rarity is not accurate. Either way, I think it is a great Vam and definitely deserving of "WOW" to vammers and those folks not already familiar! 8-)

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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by morganman » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:22 pm

Halco; You are correct in 38B being special coin with obv=Counter clasher
Die break between 2 in date & first right star to reeds
Super die cracks reverse- rust pimples eagle- clashing
Since a bunch found in 64 & down, the R7 rating is probally more like
R 5 or so IMHO. Chris just said he has a ms67 which is a wowser+++
and anything ms65 + is a real tough find. A very few 65 are out there
to my count. Probally not to many vammers looking for ms65+ due to
higher value, but sure neat to pick one in wild. I cant remember exactly
but believe PCGS & NGC dont attrib this one.

easy to pick due to huge die crack Obv = right of 2 in date /between 2
& 1st star all way from hair to reeds & counter clash obv etc
Seems a ms65 or higher feels like R7 to me LOL
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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by collectinsince65 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:18 pm

Nice pick Scott!!
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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by vamhusker » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:25 pm

The timeline is correct. The provenance makes that coin special. Even though Lee is the “King” of clash now, Mark K was/is the true King.

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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by ljs123 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:50 pm

vamhusker wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:25 pm
The timeline is correct. The provenance makes that coin special. Even though Lee is the “King” of clash now, Mark K was/is the true King.

Pete,
Thanks for your kind words.
As much as I would like to be the "King" of clash, I know that I'm no higher than court jester in Dr. Mark Kimpton's kingdom.
But that's okay. :)

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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by TheYokel » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:19 pm

morganman wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:22 pm
I cant remember exactly
but believe PCGS & NGC dont attrib this one.
Correct. I've been hassling NGC for almost a year about the K12... maybe soon...
"There is no E"...

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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by cheezhed » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:17 pm

One of my favorites. 38A has proven tough for me.

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Re: 1882 O NGC ms65 vam 38B ms65 Finally

Post by morganman » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:54 am

UPDATE: This 65 Top Pop SSDC is amazingly BOLD BOLD Clashing Example
But, my reason for update is= Obv displays Rust Pimples (Bold) by Zillions
on miss lib face & hair reaching well into fields. Rev is crazy rust pimples on
eagle breast/wings. Die file lines very bold noticible on both sides just like on
1880 s & 1881 s PL/DMPL

This coin is not PL - and misses ms66 by some smashing above Libs Ear
A beautiful ms 65 in any holder IMHO. The clashing episodes are much bolder
than any of the ms64 examples i have. Exciting beauty

The rust pimples are much bolder than most O/S i have seen, and ive seen
thousands, as the self appointed 1882 o/s King LOL

By the way- I just found another 1882 o/s v4 EDS in PCGS 60 NAOH within
my massive collection
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