1888o SCARFACE - UNKOWN LATE DIE STATE OBVERSE DIE OR VAM9 VERY LATE DIE STATE? OR SOMETHING ELSE?

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1888o SCARFACE - UNKOWN LATE DIE STATE OBVERSE DIE OR VAM9 VERY LATE DIE STATE? OR SOMETHING ELSE?

Post by Mjc1978 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:00 pm

Greetings,

I have this new acquisition an 1888o that has a unique obverse DIE crack coming from under the chin and slightly different than the normal scarface variety. The reverse has all the markers for vam9, but the obverse looks unique. I went through all the vams for this date on the site here and none of the DIE crack varieties for scarface completely match. The DIE crack coming from 9 o'clock doesn't seem to reach the end of the coin/tentacles but rather turns right going up towards 11 o'clock or the U in pluribus. I wonder if it could be an extremely late DIE state for the typical vam9 obverse or maybe a DIE that was used before the scarface DIE was used which also had some late DIE state DIE cracks that are not seen often because there wasn't many of them produced as the DIE deteriorated perhaps? Im just brainstorming or perhaps it's a DIE used after the scarface DIE wore out? I need to get more familiar with the DIE's used for this date I realize, but if anyone can help, tthat would be awesome and I'd be grateful. Thanks

Mike
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Re: 1888o SCARFACE - UNKOWN LATE DIE STATE OBVERSE DIE OR VAM9 VERY LATE DIE STATE? OR SOMETHING ELSE?

Post by CascadeChris » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:18 pm

Hi, your name doesn't sound familiar so if you're new, welcome! Your coins obverse, from what I can tell in the photo, doesn't have a Die crack but rather a stain. A soak in acetone might remove or lighten it, a quick dip in ezEst should remove it. Welcome to the jungle and have fun!
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Re: 1888o SCARFACE - UNKOWN LATE DIE STATE OBVERSE DIE OR VAM9 VERY LATE DIE STATE? OR SOMETHING ELSE?

Post by ljs123 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:34 pm

Yes on the stain.
It can't be a Scarface. The mm is in the wrong location for a VAM-1B.

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Re: 1888o SCARFACE - UNKOWN LATE DIE STATE OBVERSE DIE OR VAM9 VERY LATE DIE STATE? OR SOMETHING ELSE?

Post by fogie » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:24 pm

Stain or lamination...NOT a scarface - scar does not match...

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Re: 1888o SCARFACE - UNKOWN LATE DIE STATE OBVERSE DIE OR VAM9 VERY LATE DIE STATE? OR SOMETHING ELSE?

Post by 78-sLongnock » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:58 pm

If you see this, you’ll know it’s a Scar Face
This is a very late state (LDS) H-10
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Re: 1888o SCARFACE - UNKOWN LATE DIE STATE OBVERSE DIE OR VAM9 VERY LATE DIE STATE? OR SOMETHING ELSE?

Post by vamsterdam » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:42 pm

as has been stated, a stain.

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