1921-P D1 help (update)

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DHalladay
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1921-P D1 help (update)

Post by DHalladay » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:24 pm

Sadly, there are no scribbles to speak of... even when I squint really hard.

This is by far the key PUP I am able to find, a nice diagonal gouge in the eagle's middle/inner right wing:
37107538 right wing inner.jpg
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The lower part of the right wing has multiple gouges as well:
37107538 right wing lower.jpg
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There are many lines in, around, and in one case through the cotton bolls:
37107538 lines bolls.jpg
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There are also lines extending down from the lower leaf:
37107538 lines leaf.jpg
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And there are a bunch of lines through the crease of the cap:
37107538 lines cap.jpg
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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help needed

Post by DHalladay » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:34 pm

There are many horizontal polishing lines across the eagle's abdomen:
37107538 lines abdomen.jpg
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There are 3 different gouges (?) next to the left leg and under the talons, but each wants a different lighting source to best show up. The vertical one inside the opening is pretty noticeable when the light is on it:
37107538 left leg.jpg
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This gouge on the inner part of the upper right wreath is pretty large:
37107538 wreath gouge.jpg
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This is the only crack on either side of the coin:
37107538 wreath crack.jpg
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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help needed

Post by Mhomei » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:56 pm

Try v1bf1

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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help needed

Post by DHalladay » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:04 am

Not even close Mitch, but thanks for looking. :)
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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help needed

Post by Mhomei » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:19 am

The crack in the wreath above the R in DOLLAR
matches the LFCP.

Where does the crack come out by the wing?

Got LFCP?

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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help needed

Post by DHalladay » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:10 pm

Mhomei wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:19 am
The crack in the wreath above the R in DOLLAR
matches the LFCP.

Where does the crack come out by the wing?

Got LFCP?
Mitch:
The crack map for 1BF1 bears zero resemblance to my coin, and 1BF1 has no cracks in the wreath of the right side of the coin. The crack photo I posted above is ALL of the crack... there are no others on the coin and it doesn't get anywhere near the tip of the wreath, let alone the wing.
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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help needed

Post by Mhomei » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:42 pm

here is what I was refering to on algot coin.
mr44-algot.jpg
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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help needed

Post by weth » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:45 am

I can't place that example, Dennis. Interesting polishing lines!

Sure doesn't look like the photos on the VAM 1BF1 page. LVA's plate photo shows a break to the L in DOLLAR, and it doesn't seem that this example has that but has other breaks elsewhere.

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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help needed

Post by DHalladay » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:42 pm

Coin has been sent to LVA, and I found a couple more markers:

5-37107538 right wing inner 2.jpg
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2-37107538 RTY.jpg
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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help (update)

Post by colwillys » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:22 pm

Dennis looking at your pictures it is coming up D2.. It looks like a berry , please check . I maybe getting
a wrong read .

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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help (update)

Post by DHalladay » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:29 pm

D1 talon...
2-37107538 D1 talon.jpg
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Re: 1921-P D1 reverse help (update)

Post by colwillys » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:30 pm

Sorry -- my mistake .. you are right .

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