1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

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1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by andywoj00 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:11 am

I received this coin today from an Ebay auction. At first I thought it was fake, but did some measuring. From what I've read, the official weight tolerance range for an uncirculated Morgan is 26.73 grams +/- .097 grams, 412.5 grains +/- 1.5 grains.

This coin (IMHO VF to low XF) weighs 26.555 grams/409.82 grains (-.175). Diameter is 37.88 mm (-.22 ). I think the differences are reasonable given the coin's wear. Under the scope, it looks legit, just worn. Crumbling around most of the reverse devices, but not to the level of a V1K. It 's like a cross between a V1J and V1K.

Also, that spear anomaly at the eagle's right shoulder is not incused, but raised on the outside edges as if there were a major gouge/cut of some kind in the die. It's perfectly straight, so as to what tool or mechanism made the mark is up in the air. Discuss...

Thanks in advance.....Andrew

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Re: 1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by CascadeChris » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:16 am

It's a knife / cut mark. Recessed in the middle where the knife was drawn with humps on the sides and end where the metal was pushed up.
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Re: 1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by andywoj00 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:19 am

CascadeChris wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:16 am
It's a knife / cut mark. Recessed in the middle where the knife was drawn with humps on the sides and end where the metal was pushed up.
Pretty damn straight, huh? Also, what are your thoughts on the VAM characteristics? Any guess as to a listed VAM?

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Re: 1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by Tekkie1 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:26 am

I agree with the knife cut.

Possible VAM-1J ??

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Re: 1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by VamHelsing » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 am

What's between the A R of dollar?

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Re: 1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by LorenAlbert » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:02 am

The reverse dies, for both J and K, may currently be described as collapsed. Possibly a kill; even if the die pairs are different.

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Re: 1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by andywoj00 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:08 pm

VamHelsing wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 am
What's between the A R of dollar?
Under the scope, it looks like a couple of scratches.

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Re: 1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by WJM14 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:12 am

I looked and there are two possibilities: VAM 1K and more likely VAM 31. Hope this is helpful.

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Re: 1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by vamsterdam » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:19 pm

Where do we look up vams on this site?

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Re: 1888-O VAM-?? Not sure what to make of this....

Post by andywoj00 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:11 pm

VAM viewing is not set up here yet. Go here until it is:
http://www.vamworld.com/Morgan%20VAMs%20By%20Date

http://varslab.com/vw/dateselect.htm

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