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Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:00 am
by vamnuke
Today, I got my most recent ANACS submission back; I took advantage of their $10 special back at the TNA show here in TX and sent in an assortment of raw coins I had accumulated, including a couple from the TNA show.

Highlights:

1884-CC GSA hard plastic holder MS-63 (it's a V3; this was an EBAY bargain I found earlier this year; yes sometimes I pick up non-1878 material!)

1878-S VAM 29 MS 63 (upgrade for my MS 61 specimen)
1878-S VAM 43 die 2 MS 64 (upgrade for my MS 63 specimen)
1878-S VAM 78 die 5 MS 60 details (scratched). (hole filled)

1878-S VAM ?? VG-8. (I thought I sent in a VAM 1I; quite the rare bird and 1st use of the B2 reverse at the San Francisco mint; but, NO! JR's comments: "Reverse as VAM-1i, but with an apparently unlisted obverse. Note the over polished L and strong gouges in BERT of LIBERTY." So, this one will be taking a summer trip to LVA. Upon closer look, it looks like the area below the designer's initial is overpolished too. And, (sigh), I still need a VAM 1i, so the hunt continues...

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:10 am
by 78-sLongnock
OB Pics please, eye, 4th star, & neck.
Also
Rev pic of Left wing, knock, R , and S for location.
Interesting but strange, anything is possible with SF in 1878.
Remarriage with polished initial ??? After Vam 18A??..

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:15 am
by vamnuke
Will try to get some photos in the AM.

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:04 pm
by vampicker
I looked thru the listings and didn't find a clear match with any known obverse. Y'all got some huntin' on your hands

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:18 pm
by vamnuke
There are only 7 1i listings in the SSDC registry, the highest lower grade AU.

I had bought this raw attributed and never gave it a second look after seeing die polish lines on reverse.

Now, back in hand, the gouges thru BERT really stand out even on a VG coin. Very over polished area below the ‘m’ too.

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:39 pm
by vamsterdam
Is this the one I sold you? If we t was, it shows I am slipping. Couldn’t imagine vam 1i having two obverses, as rare as it is.

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:55 pm
by vamnuke
That's the one!

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:03 pm
by vamnuke
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Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:17 pm
by CascadeChris
Wow :shock:

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:27 pm
by fogie
If I sent it to LVA - HE would say something like "I do not look at coins this worn - find a nice one and try again. Thanks....." :?

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:34 pm
by ljs123
WTG Clay

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:39 pm
by vamnuke
I figure it’s worth a shot going to OH; i’ve had a few rejection letters; besides, I need to order this year’s update anyway.

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:13 pm
by vamnuke
Polished ‘L’
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Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:22 pm
by fogie
I would try too.

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:27 pm
by messydesk
If someone has a VAM 1I to lend Clay before he sends the coin to Leroy, that would help tremendously. Leroy's not fond of using low-grade coins for new discoveries, but another coin that gave clear context would help matters.

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:42 pm
by vampicker
A copy of the ANACS packing slip would help too.

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:02 pm
by vamnuke
already attached to the letter I drafted :)

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:04 pm
by vamnuke
I don't have a 1i but could send a 72 & 18

Re: Possible new 1878-S die marriage!?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:21 pm
by 78-sLongnock
I have three Vam 1I’s in 10, 50 & mid AU details.
I’m away till end of July so when I’m back will review each and report findings
Pic of in front In field of nostril To lip will be helpful