1884-CC and 1883-O BRANCH MINT SERIOUS SUSPECTS

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Chanteezy
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1884-CC and 1883-O BRANCH MINT SERIOUS SUSPECTS

Post by Chanteezy » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:49 pm

Hello all, I have unfortunately written this post 2 times already and lost them both while trying to attach pics. Both had much better explanations but I have run out of time. I have been collecting for 30 years, am a top tiered member of PCGS and NGC and am going to the FUN show next week! The coin whose presence is found the most of in my collection (which includes inherited collections of 3 generations of men in my family) is the Morgan dollar. I know it’s cliche.. but it’s the truth.. I’ve read and go back to books by good old Mr. Miller and Mr. Lange, and let me say Vam World has been my world since 2010. Wow, I can’t tell you how Thankful I am for all of you! This is however, my first post ever.. I’m an M.D and own my own dermatology clinic and let’s just say I know when to take up peoples time and when not to. Known about the Branch mints I have for years. It wasn’t until 2 years ago that I thought to look for any in my own collection and found one 1884-CC like one I have never seen. After comparing it to the heritage site graded ones and comparing it to other GSA graded 1884-CC’s I own as well as to graded morgan proofs, I believe this is the real deal! I know NGC is the only company that verifies their existence but maybe after you look at my pics, you will become a believer as well.
Another BMP (Branch mint) that I became obsessed with is the 1883-O.. convinced I had the coin, I purchased thousands more through the years.. now that one coin I thought was it actually still stands in my top 3.. I’m looking for opinions, comments of Any kind about them, if anyone knows anyone in the minneapolis MN. Area that I could take them to see, if anyone has any info about the dies used for 1883-o bmp I would love to talk to you! If I could quit my day job and go fully into numastics I would and one day I will. You are all my favorite people because of the love we share for history, beauty, metallurgy, etc.

Patiently waiting!
~C
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Re: 1884-CC and 1883-O BRANCH MINT SERIOUS SUSPECTS

Post by Unc90o » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:09 pm

A proof morgan should exhibit more 'squared' denticles and mirrored field not frosty like a typical coinage for circulation. And no clashing :D .

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Re: 1884-CC and 1883-O BRANCH MINT SERIOUS SUSPECTS

Post by blh74 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:18 am

Looks like a business strike to me.

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Re: 1884-CC and 1883-O BRANCH MINT SERIOUS SUSPECTS

Post by Chanteezy » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:37 pm

I’m so sorry guys but you answered without doing any homework.. it’s been documented that the ‘83-O doesn’t have the strength of strike a Phili Proof does, therefore and I quote Wayne Miller from his textbook of Morgan and Peace dollars pg. 223 “ fields are grey brilliant, strike is bold but with partial squared rims”. If you look at the heritage side Eliasberg 83-O you will see how the denticles look very similar to my suspects 1 and 2. The obverse top denticles are very weak while both sides are pretty strong but not ever as strong as a phili Proof. The reverse has better denticles but for the bottom right facing side. I realize I’ve stared at every detail of the coin over a hundred thousand times so I don’t mean to sound defensive. Also, these coins have deep mirrors. Suspect 1 has been cleaned by someone who owned it before I :.......( (#coincleaningsucks).. if you guys saw these in person I know you guys would be able to see what I do...
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