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Post by pete$298 » Fri May 31, 2019 10:03 pm

Recently caught the VAM bug. Started noticing things on my Morgans and it doesn't take long! I found a 1884-O VAM 37A2 in my collection and need a little help with the raised area on the left side of the right wreath end. I have noticed it on other coins' but haven't found and explanation. Could someone help.
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Post by CascadeChris » Fri May 31, 2019 10:07 pm

Welcome to the Jungle. Others will be by shortly to help out with your question. I'm spent from a show today. I do want to say that the 37A2 is THE VAM that got me started along this path. Not because of what it was but because of what it wasn't. I was convinced I had found a new O/S. Heard about this @messydesk guy you can send your Morgans to to have assessed. He quickly dashed my Hope's. Not many people know that. Remember that JB? Anyway, again, welcome to the FUN, welcome to the madness :mrgreen:
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Post by LateDateMorganGuy » Fri May 31, 2019 10:08 pm

That is the capvee clash from an obverse die. You will get a lot of help in responses from folks here to help you understand this.

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Post by pete$298 » Fri May 31, 2019 10:10 pm

Thanks for the welcome.

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Post by pete$298 » Fri May 31, 2019 10:12 pm

And the Help

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Post by blh74 » Fri May 31, 2019 11:04 pm

You may see double and triple and more clash marks by the wreath.

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Post by ...kenny » Fri May 31, 2019 11:09 pm

Here is the overlay of the 2 die's in normal position. To obtain a clash, the 2 die's would have to connect and transfer details from one to the other...kenny

http://vamworld.com/wiki/Overlay
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Post by pete$298 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:44 am

blh74 looking at a 1884-P I i have found a double. Very interesting! Thanks!

Kenny The overlay explains it. Great Help!

RMC1883cc Helpful Pics. Thanks for your help!

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Post by VamHelsing » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:21 am

Welcome to the jungle, er, madness!!!

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Post by PacificWR » Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:07 am

Welcome to the madness...I mean aboard. Buckle up and enjoy. Lot's of folks here to help you down the VAM path.

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Post by messydesk » Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:41 am

Welcome to the hobby. As others have explained, you have a rather common die clash. If one of the dies rotates in the arbor after one clash and then they clash again, you'll see a double clash. The 1886-O VAM 1A dies clashed many times, and on some coins, you can observe 7 (or so) of these.

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