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78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:03 am
by lewisr2
78-S VAM-51 die 2 LVA letter.jpg
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New 78-S VAM designation from Leroy today

VAM-51 die 2

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:07 am
by lewisr2
In a day or two I am going to try to put into this message the photos Leroy sent with the letter.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:16 am
by messydesk
Cool! Is this the one you showed me at FUN? I wish he would have called it VAM 115, instead.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:27 am
by lewisr2
JB -- yes this is the one I showed you at FUN.
I also had JR look at it.
I was hoping for a new VAM but didn't happen.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:56 am
by PacificWR
Good job Lewis.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:41 am
by blh74
Good for you. I also have the same situation with 1897 S VAM 16. I got Obv. die 2. Thought it would be a new VAM.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:29 am
by CascadeChris
I'm having trouble reading the letter. Is that due to the quality of the scan?

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:18 am
by bigjayvee
WTG Lewis,As usual,good work on the 78-S's!!!! Will check my V51 for the "NEW" obverse.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:21 pm
by lewisr2
I see that the words on Leroy's letter are hard to read.
Last night I scanned the letter at a higher resolution, but it was over the 1.5MB limit.
I will try some things to get the quality better and stay within the 1.5 MB limit.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:34 pm
by lewisr2
LVA letter 78S VAM-51 die 2.jpg
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Hope this will be readable.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:51 pm
by lewisr2
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Leroy pictures of 78S VAM-51 die 2

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:18 am
by tbconcrete
Great pictures Lew. Hard work pays off. Surprised the pictures never made it to the page.
Do you have editing privileges, Lew ? The page could use some die 2 PUPs

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:39 am
by Mhomei
Thanks for bumping this.
I totally missed the june thread.

Congrats Lewis!!!

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:35 am
by PacificWR
Lewis,

Do you need help with the page update?

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:06 am
by lewisr2
Yes — I need help.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:28 am
by PacificWR
Lewis,

Do you know if the photo's normal jaw, die chip on E and double one are LVA plate photos? The VAM Book only shows one plate photo (engraved wing feather).























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Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:34 pm
by evensocome
I feel VAMs are going to be somewhat absurd if new die combo's cease to become new VAMs. Obviously it's Leroy's party, and he can do as he pleases, but I can't help but feel that this VAM-11.2 trend is muddying the waters (since it's supremely arbitrary and can go either way and often does). Not to mention I feel it risks making an already technical and somewhat obscure hobby look a bit highfalutin and silly. Again, I know Leroy can do as he pleases. Just my 2 cents.

And congrats on what used to be a new VAM but is now a new die pair! /facepalm

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:37 am
by blh74
evensocome wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:34 pm
I feel VAMs are going to be somewhat absurd if new die combo's cease to become new VAMs. Obviously it's Leroy's party, and he can do as he pleases, but I can't help but feel that this VAM-11.2 trend is muddying the waters (since it's supremely arbitrary and can go either way and often does). Not to mention I feel it risks making an already technical and somewhat obscure hobby look a bit highfalutin and silly. Again, I know Leroy can do as he pleases. Just my 2 cents.

And congrats on what used to be a new VAM but is now a new die pair! /facepalm
Two different obverse dies. They each are paired with the same reverse. Why not two VAMS? Can anyone explain this? I would appreciate any comments. Thanks.

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:41 am
by lewisr2
Wayne,
What photos are you talking about?

Re: 78-S -- new VAM-51 die 2

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:50 am
by lewisr2
Wayne,
Yes, these are Leroy's photos.
Leroy's photos have his description printed on the bottom of the photo.