1922 Unknown VAM, Strong Obv Doubling

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Pareidoliac
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1922 Unknown VAM, Strong Obv Doubling

Post by Pareidoliac » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:52 pm

Very strong obverse doubling on this 1922. All digits in date are strongly doubled. LIB_R_Y are doubled with I and Y strongly doubled; I may be tripled. Four or more rays left of I are tripled, though starting with fifth ray they appear only doubled with no doubling beyond the eighth ray. Nose is doubled. Lower hair strand is strongly doubled (visible in full obverse photo). Front of neck is doubled. Rim above BERT doubled. There is a die crack at bottom of neck. There are feed finger lines (gouges?) under N and G of GOD and R of TRVST, the latter appearing to be slightly raised. Reverse is unremarkable except for a shoulder clash. More photos to follow.
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Re: 1922 Unknown VAM, Strong Obv Doubling

Post by Pareidoliac » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:55 pm

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Re: 1922 Unknown VAM, Strong Obv Doubling

Post by Pareidoliac » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:57 pm

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Re: 1922 Unknown VAM, Strong Obv Doubling

Post by fogie » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:06 pm

The nose, I and Y are looking a LOT like strike doubling (nothing to do with VAMs). The rest are most likely also strike doubling.

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Re: 1922 Unknown VAM, Strong Obv Doubling

Post by Raybob15239 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:07 pm

Look at my post. My 22P is very similar. Mechanical doubling.
I swear, someday I will learn how to grade Peace Dollars!

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Re: 1922 Unknown VAM, Strong Obv Doubling

Post by colwillys » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:11 pm

super pictures , made easy to see the machine doubling .
Gouges under G in GOD my tell you the VAM .

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Re: 1922 Unknown VAM, Strong Obv Doubling

Post by Pareidoliac » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:26 am

Went back and reviewed machine doubling vs. die doubling. I should re-read that section at least once a week. While the shelf effect, especially on the Y and 2, are clearly machine doubling, I'm still hung up on the tripled rays.

Possible VAM-2M, but I will need in-hand verification by JB or ANACS.

Raybob, I went back and found your post. Had I checked it earlier, I might have saved myself a lot of time.

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