What's the difference between 1878 8tf V22B & C?

[SilverToken]

Since the descriptions seem to hinge on the die chips and breaks, what would an 8TF 22_ be considered if the chip on Star 2 has not formed but has the (2) cracks that caused the chip and has crack stages of the rest of the stars/wing tips?

[vampicker]

Before anyone else chimes in, if JB feels he has enough evidence to kill off the listing, I'm going to support his decision.

[mark]

Since the descriptions seem to hinge on the die chips and breaks, what would an 8TF 22_ be considered if the chip on Star 2 has not formed but has the (2) cracks that caused the chip and has crack stages of the rest of the stars/wing tips?

Do you have a coin with the breaks on the reverse but not on the obverse? The 22B discovery has the breaks on the obverse and reverse.

[fogie]

RIP 1878-P VAM-22C. Perhaps a day of two early but the sentiment is strong.

[impairedsquirrel]

RIP 1878-P VAM-22C. Perhaps a day of two early but the sentiment is strong.

Yeah, there is LITERALLY no difference between my 22B DC and the 22C listing. In fact, it was actually the OBVERSE break that I sent it to Leroy for to begin with!

[SilverToken]

Mark-

What I was trying to convey is that the written description of both the 22 B&C have a die "chip" on the second star.

The coin I have does not have the chip, but has the crack forming. It does have radial cracks on both front and back.

Attached are the photos. I am only looking for clarification of crack vs chip and if this may warrant more investigation on another string, but this seemed a logical starting point.

I do agree that what is shown on VamWorld 22B and 22C are overlapping.

[mark]

Mark-

What I was trying to convey is that the written description of both the 22 B&C have a die "chip" on the second star.

The coin I have does not have the chip, but has the crack forming. It does have radial cracks on both front and back.

Attached are the photos. I am only looking for clarification of crack vs chip and if this may warrant more investigation on another string, but this seemed a logical starting point.

I do agree that what is shown on VamWorld 22B and 22C are overlapping.

My opinion is VAM-22A.

[mark]

I have 4 VAM-22s. Posting 3 below with all different die states. The 1st and 2nd I have as 22A, and the 3rd 22B. The 2nd coin does not have the chip on the obverse, possibly the beginnings of a reverse chip.

The 22B has the chips on obverse and reverse. One thing I will mention that stands out is that the wing tip is smooth which I haven't seen that with other coins.

22A EDS

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22A LDS

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22B

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[SilverToken]

Thank's Mark. It is obvious that I may need to slow down and read the descriptions better.

Re-reading it, I am good with the LDS Vam 22-A, I got hung up on thinking the clash began as a B but obviously, it did not.

As far as the smooth wing, the reverse is DMPL if that helps, or close to it!

Thanks again!