New Coin Posted - Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

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New Coin Posted - Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by Pittstate03 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:26 pm

*For new coin see page two.



I had the pictures posted already, so do you want to make it a guess the grade?
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(Answered, thanks messydesk)Is the 9 on this Morgan considered closed or open? Thank you for any help.
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Re: Is this a closed or open 9

Post by tmanhg » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:34 pm

Looks open to me.

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Re: Is this a closed or open 9

Post by PacificWR » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:08 pm

Open.

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Re: Is this a closed or open 9 (79-S Rev 78)

Post by messydesk » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:25 am

Using open and closed 9 to attribute 79-S Rev. 78 went out in the late 90s when the 79-S book came out. While this is an open 9, it's best to go through the 79-S Rev. 78 pages to see how to attribute this coin.
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Re: Is this a closed or open 9 (79-S Rev 78)

Post by Pittstate03 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:38 am

I don’t have the book and can’t find one for sale. The description on the Vamworld pages uses open and closed 9 as a indicator for partially broken “r” reverses.
The coin looks like a VAM 35, but if it has a open 9, does that make it something else or do you stick with a Vam 35?

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Re: Is this a closed or open 9 (79-S Rev 78)

Post by messydesk » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:43 am

The engraved feather under the eagle's right wing looks like either VAM 35 or 39. Check the wheat stalk for the gouge across the kernels, which is shown on the VAM 39 page. This reverse is also used with VAMs 34 and 34A, but those are scarce and almost always circulated.
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Re: Is this a closed or open 9 (79-S Rev 78)

Post by Pittstate03 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:10 am

It has the lines in the wheat stock as a Vam 35. It seems to be lacking the diagonal lines in wing that the 39 is asssociated with.
Thanks for your input and help.
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Re: Is this a closed or open 9 (79-S Rev 78)

Post by messydesk » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:37 am

That's VAM 39. See the gouge in the left red circle below (from the VAM 39 page). I guess it goes up to the kernels, not into them.

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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by tbconcrete » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:15 am

MS Details Counting Wheel Damage. MS 63

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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by Vam-mysterio » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:24 am

Unc Details,net ms62

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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by DHalladay » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:37 am

AU58
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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by dave700x » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:34 pm

AU55
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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by CascadeChris » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:06 pm

I'm at 58 too. The small what look like hairline patches in rev between eagles right wing and wreath and also in field behind cap band could details it however, if they are hairline patches.
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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by crabscrape » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:35 pm

Detail 62

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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by Kevinslack » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:52 pm

I'm in for ms 63

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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by colwillys » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:55 pm

I say AU 58 but icg soft grades MS63 .

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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by Pittstate03 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:33 pm

Pretty Good!
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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by Kevinslack » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:29 pm

I would be more then happy to pay AU price for that coin, been wanting one. :D

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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by shortnock » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:49 pm

Darnfine specimen.
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Re: Can we make this a guess the grade? (79-S Rev 78)

Post by tbconcrete » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:32 pm

Nice looking coin, I had the hair lines between the Rt wing and the wreath as counting wheel damage. Have one bagged that looks familiar. In hand is a different look.

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