Back from LVA - three 1883P kills! (one inadvertent)

[weth]

Hey folks-who-can-edit: can you take a look at the 1883P VAM 1 page? The grouping and pagination of the photos is slightly off; the reverse of Die 1 is showing up as the first photo in the Die 2 section. Thanks for any edits you can make!

Whoa! The conversion script got thrown off by seeing "full coin photos" on one line and started grouping things together that shouldn't be. I'll fix it.

Edit: All fixed. Much better.

Thank you so much, John! It does look much better now, the way the photos are grouped.

[vamsterdam]

Glad that is all cleared up!
According to my conversation with Leroy, the old v18a discovery piece becomes the new v7a discovery piece and the old vam 7a discovery piece becomes just another vam 7a. So, whoever has them should take note.

[weth]

According to my conversation with Leroy, the old v18a discovery piece becomes the new v7a discovery piece and the old vam 7a discovery piece becomes just another vam 7a. So, whoever has them should take note.

You already mentioned that, Brian. If only you had shown the same sense of zeal and urgency toward maintaining the accuracy of the listings as you now do toward maintaining your newfound status as the "VAM 7A discoverer," perhaps this matter could have been resolved some time ago.

[vamsterdam]

I contacted the owner of the v18a discovery as soon as I heard about the controversy. It was last year. I asked him to send it to Leroy. I also called Leroy, who told me the v18a discovery piece would remain as the discovery piece but would become the v7a discovery piece. I then let the owner of the coin know what Leroy said. I tried to give him some assurance that he would not lose discovery status on the coin, after all, he bought it as a discovery piece. I guess despite all the reassurances that no comments were aimed at me, it seems it wasn’t the whole truth

[rogerg]

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Does the VAM-49 discovery piece have these die scratches ?
I think mine is an EDS .
It has no die cracks.

[weth]

Does the VAM-49 discovery piece have these die scratches ?
I think mine is an EDS .
It has no die cracks.

I don't know what constitutes a discovery coin for the VAM 49, but those marks do match the VAM 49, indeed.

I sort of think of VAM 49 in four stages:

Stage 1 - no cracks, often prooflike
Stage 2 - cracks formed (by date, from U to cap)
Stage 3 - single clash (weak, no transfer)
Stage 4 - stronger second clash (possible very weak transfer of n at neck - LVA has acknowledged it in the past, but not in this most recent submission. Perhaps the right coin might get a VAM 49A designation, but I don't want to pursue that any more)

[raynat3]

Thanks for your work on this series Tom.

[fogie]

Outstanding work !!!! Congratulations Tom.

[rogerg]

Stage 1 - no cracks, often prooflike
Which is what mine is, 66PL.
Dates match up. Slanted.

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Reshot tail scratch.

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Also Vamworld lists "Five nearly vertical die polishing lines left end Phrygian cap ribbon."

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Best shot I could get of them, also has a good vert. scratch from leaf as well as two diagonals in ear.
LVA may not have seen in a lesser coin.