1923 S Unknown VAM Help, comments, Thoughts?

[jrfaust]

Would love some help, comments and thoughts on this 1923 S I've been working on for a few weeks. Been up and down the 23 S Vam pages and can't seem to match this up. Any help would be appreciated! @davidkclose @colwillys @DarksideVAM @Jodemyer
The reverse has a couple die cracks from ONE up thru U of UNITED and another thru E PLURBUS. The crack up to U in UNITED has what I believe has some displaced metal. Reverse also has some pretty hefty polishing lines in all the normal clashed areas. The Obverse is pretty much plain Jane. Thanks again everyone for your input
Here's some photos

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[jrfaust]

Forgot to add that the mint mark is set pretty low.
more photos

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[Albannach]

The plot thickens

Tom et Al …
Tell me what you see

[jrfaust]

Couple more

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[colwillys]

Low mint mark clash could be VAM 6 .. Looks to have double wing at ONE .

[jrfaust]

Tom, there are no file lines on OBV, no dbl'd "S" or wing. Are you sure you're not thinking of another VAM than V6?

[jrfaust]

Anyone else? @davidkclose

[RogerRock]

Position of polished clash marks off eagle's shoulder looks similar to VAM 1Q. The reverse die cracks should be easy to match up if this die stage is listed. Dr. Close is looking at several 1923 S VAMs recently.

[jrfaust]

Thanks Roger, the file lines do look similar to the 1Q but not exact. This coin does have a lite collar clash, but not in the same position as the 1Q. The collar clash is located under E of PEACE to the second mountain. Very slight. I know Dr. Close @davidkclose is focusing on the 23 S VAMs and hope he might have some insight on this coin.
Thanks again for having a look at this coin!

[Jodemyer]

@jrfaust
Love the cracks! I been through the listings one at a time a few times now and no luck for me either.

[jrfaust]

Thanks JT @Jodemyer for looking thru the VAM pages! I'll send a email to @davidkclose and see if he'd like to see it in hand.
PS, I owe you an email and phone call my friend.
The other Jody

[davidkclose]

In searching my inventory, I found a specimen of this, although yours is a later die state. It is currently unlisted, I will further study it as I am able. There are several "polished die" varieties listed, and many more which are not listed, with many of these being to minor to list.. In 1923S, I have identified what I believe to be > 200 die marriages, so avoiding a duplicate listing is not always easy.

[jrfaust]

Thanks Doc!

[davidkclose]

I want to bring this one back to the top.

[davidkclose]

The obverse has no meaningful die markers, & no apparent clash marks. The reverse has polished clash marks in several areas, with file lines covering 1/3-1/2 of the reverse field.
I will list the as new VAM 1FO,- Polished clash marks reverse.