"22 P, is she worthy?

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"22 P, is she worthy?

Post by shortnock » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:35 am

Peace 1922 P. Obverse die crack pattern not seen in VAM. Circulated, die polishing on the obverse and reverse. Is she worthy to be VAMized?
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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by shortnock » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:38 am

Also, reverse rim cud at 8 o'clock.
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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by raynat3 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:54 pm

The crack through the N is key, to this one IMO. Passed by the show on the way to SA.

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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by davidkclose » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:31 am

I don't see any displacement across the die cracks.
The file lines might justify the coin being listed, especially as it has a B1 reverse. I believe that I have this coin, I want to see it in hand before doing anything with it.
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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by keilg1 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:54 am

As a darkside outsider I'm curious if others more experienced could explain the acceptable level of what would constitute a rim cud?

Could be more obvious with the coin in hand and/or other (better) pictures, but I've now seen a few coins that are either listed or not that have (no offense) rather minor blobs of rim metal that have not been a listable quality on Morgan dollars.

Granted, on person's cud is another person's... well... crud?

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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by shortnock » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:16 pm

Perhaps this is a rusty obverse at IGWT. Believe that is another crack 90-degress off the long one through "N" in IN. Here's closeup of "B" in LIBERTY. And that's the best photo of the rim "crud."
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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by shortnock » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:21 pm

David Close says, "I don't see any displacement across the die cracks.
The file lines might justify the coin being listed, especially as it has a B1 reverse. I believe that I have this coin, I want to see it in hand before doing anything with it.

Shortnock asks: Is she VAMworthy? AND if so, where does she go? To David, to John or John?
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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by vampicker » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:56 pm

Peace Dollars go to Dr Close. At best he sounded like a tepid maybe on this one
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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by shortnock » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:16 pm

Have sent email to Dr. Close.
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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by davidkclose » Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:09 pm

This coin appears to be scarce, I have looked at over 100 of my 1922 B1's & found only one. If I can get adequate photos, I will likely list it.

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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by shortnock » Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:42 pm

Dr. Close! Great thanks for your effort in behalf of this candidate, being my first discovery VAM. Christian Merlo has the specimen and has provided additional photos. Please advise where to send the coin for your further consideration.
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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by davidkclose » Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:10 am

After seeing the coin in hand (mine is a little later die state & slightly lower grade), I have decided to list this as VAM 1AJ - Polished pitted obverse die, die scratches at and below leaves. Credit for this one goes to shortnock, good job!
I will start another thread & post more photos there.

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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by shortnock » Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:32 pm

Dr. Close, Thanks for your pursuit in behalf of this VAM discovery. Now wearing a smile like a wave across a milk pail. Should this specimen be shipped to you?
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Re: "22 P, is she worthy?

Post by davidkclose » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:31 am

I have one, I don't need to see yours unless there is something unusual or different from photos already posted.
As I had said above, I have over 100 1922 Peace dollars w/ B1 reverse, & only found one of these.

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