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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by vampicker » Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:40 am

I'd think it's a safe assumption that the long die scratch thru AMERICA exists independent of the clashing. That marker has been listed for years now and it is how the Harrison 0 stage was located in the first place. An example without the clash would likely shuffle the deck
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:34 am

Somebody got it ,, same die pair , I just want to know if it is H1 EDS cause the pictures were iffy. If it is eds, it should tie for top pop , way to go !

PICK OF THE YEAR if it is,,, here you go Dennis , https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1 ... PCGS-MS-64
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:31 pm

@DHalladay I justed wanted to thank you for this thread.Although I knew dang good and well I was gonna get out bid for it . It was fun to research everything I could on the SSDC pages . Next time I'm hoping for just a little better picture of the dot . Not sure how that coin made it that far without aVSS sticker . Pretty sure all of the bids in the last 4 seconds were members here... Hoping the winner shares pictures with coin in hand and gets a sticker :D
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:40 pm

So the Moral of this story after getting outbid for a 1888-O 1B H1 EDS twice before , { for me anyways }, was to go hunt the wild ..... So I hit the buy it now , pictures were much better this time but I'm still not counting chickens before they hatch... wait patiently for 5 to 7 days always questioning what it will really be like in hand , and hoping JR does not shuffle the deck before I get it and let you folks decide if it is worthy . :lol:

I kind of gave up looking for a Harrison H-O
and will feel silly if i got photoshoped into a H-2
but I really like that eagles beard and I am just going to have to wait and see ...
Then if the stars align I'll get it put in plastic .... crossing fingers ;)
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by 78-sLongnock » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:28 pm

1888-0 vam 1B H-1 Not EDS. Still nice AQ by someone

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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:18 pm

78-sLongnock wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:28 pm
1888-0 vam 1B H-1 Not EDS. Still nice AQ by someone
I hope you mean the GC listing . Please tell me why ? is it the lower denticle filling going on down low or does the crack display more of a break ?Displaced field below the dot ???? sorry i just don't know, I'm still pretty green no matter how many times I read the VW pages ,or the article by ash Harrison or the registry listings I could not be sure from the pictures . If EDS the guy made bank, if not I hope he is happy . its still a way cool clash and the lines on the reverse stand out ,,, very cool VAM! IMO Thank you in advance

PS the other one I got beat on was AOH pcgs , MS 62 and it said EDS on it , And I was not certain it was correct . I will find the link and edit this post.is this one also not EDS stage H-1 ?????????????https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1 ... -CAC-Tonededit this one looks more H2 to me , but does not have the denticle stuff going on by the date????? I'm so confused now :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by 78-sLongnock » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:49 pm

The second one in PCGS 62 is a H-2 the OB crack is just past the dot
The first one in PCGS 64 is a H-1 as the OB crack is from the rim to the Dot
The EDS is noted by PCGS that it’s not a Scarface H-8 to H-10
EDS is noted by PCGS as one of the following H-1 to H-7
H-2 to H-7 are determined by how far the crack goes across to the nose
Top Pop H-1 is a PCGS 64+ ( only 1 known)
Top Pop H-2 is a PCGS 65. ( only 1 known)
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:57 pm

Thank you , only question is the EDS on H-1 . I could not tell looking at the top pop picture in the SSDC registry either . What specifies EDS @stage 1 ...and i can't remember for sure but top pop for EDS H-1 was MS 64 i think ...

The page on VW said EDS was no crack and fill {Paraphrasing here } in between the denticals is that correct??? , and no crack past dot the Dot too.......stages within stages ;)



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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:27 am

Its OK Man I'll figure it out . i already pulled the trigger , gonna have to put my tag on it when it shows up so it is too late :lol: :lol: Always be sure before you pull the trigger . That's what I was taught and learned about hunting in general anyways .... Thank you for your help @78-sLongknock
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by 78-sLongnock » Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:04 am

I’ve had a sneaking suspicion that most of the H-1 EDS on SSDC pop report are miss attributed because the PCGS label says EDS
The ones that have pics attach have proven my hunches

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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by SilverToken » Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:12 pm

If you haven't, go to VAM issue 32 in the newsletter archives (sept 2007 issue 9) to view the progression of the crack. Those old newsletters are wonderful, and I can see that they were a TON of work.

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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:51 pm

78-sLongnock wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:04 am
I’ve had a sneaking suspicion that most of the H-1 EDS on SSDC pop report are miss attributed because the PCGS label says EDS
The ones that have pics attach have proven my hunches
Thank you for that comment > So I am not the only one" just asking questions" about this particular variety pop report??? .Hoping I don't end up with pile of H-2's before I get to the one I'm hunting :lol:

@SilverToken Had I read that article before last weekend , I would have only gotten out bid once not twice. ;)
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:08 am

And please forgive any incorrect statements I have made about this mysterious EDS H-1 stage of the 1888-O 1B1 ... I re read everything again ... still questioning the difference of the VAM VIEW price guide , because the official listing ON wiki does not really break H-1 EDS vs H-1 out ... and i;m not sure if the arrow pointing to the denticles near the date is something I was mistaken about ......still hoping for crack and not break from rim to dot ,, that keeps it simple I guess .
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sat Mar 25, 2023 12:41 am

@78sLongnock
78-sLongnock wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:49 pm
The second one in PCGS 62 is a H-2 the OB crack is just past the dot
The first one in PCGS 64 is a H-1 as the OB crack is from the rim to the Dot
The EDS is noted by PCGS that it’s not a Scarface H-8 to H-10
EDS is noted by PCGS as one of the following H-1 to H-7
H-2 to H-7 are determined by how far the crack goes across to the nose
Top Pop H-1 is a PCGS 64+ ( only 1 known)
Top Pop H-2 is a PCGS 65. ( only 1 known)
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:23 am

The mail is soooooooo sloooooooow
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:52 pm

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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:13 pm

No I just wondered about the other die sctatch or gouge.not the one through americ' but the one visible on the H-0 pictures. on the united side of the reverse
.Does this one disappear by the time the stage gets to H-1 ?????
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by SilverToken » Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:59 pm

the gouge is present on stage 1
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:49 am

Thank you , I should have been more studious the first time , This PCGS attribution of EDS on everything {1 -7} Threw me because included in the VW pages on a couple of the early stages are TWO stabbed EDS mystery stage coins in holders and the EDS thing threw me a little bit the first time .

And i did not react very well to getting out bid by 600 bucks in the last few seconds , that really threw me :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: guess which 1888-O

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:57 am

Gonna need a judgement call as I'm feeling more H-2 , than H-1 , official listing does say crack through dot , but I think it would be tons better if there was nothing past the Dot ... The beard is still pretty cool . I can already see this is gonna be a thing for me . Next time look for the H-0 maybe get the EDS H-1 :lol:
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