1921-s vam 1B3A PCGS 63 Thorn Head

[78-sLongnock]

I have an extra 1921-S vam 1B3A Thornhead NAOH Cert number 45663000 available.
The Thorn Head detailed pic can be seen on PCGS cert verification system
If you are interested send me a note.

[78-sLongnock]

To help those who are don’t or can’t do their own research, There are only now 3 1921-S vam 1B3A known in BU.
It was discovered by John B in 2008. So after all the searching by who’s who in all
Of the coin shows, This is 3rd one to surface. Good luck finding the next one.
I’ll never forget the first BU one found in an auction snafu, and the hoops he had to go through to get it.

[MarkyB]

Interested. I can do $195 firm via check. Thanks for making it avaialable...MB

[DHalladay]

Items for sale are required to have a price attached, per board rule posted in the blue header above.

[VamHelsing]

Marky, you do realize that this lists for $4500 in VAM value guide....

I'll go $250,,,,

[Vam-mysterio]

Marky, you do realize that this lists for $4500 in VAM value guide....
I’ll do better than Marky and vamhelsin
I’ll go $275

[MarkyB]

Think he'll take it? But seriously, never heard of a "VAM value guide". I use the PCGS price guide for a wag value and it lists the 1B3. If you want to pay that type of premium for a change in polishing lines, knock yourself out. I'd never do it. I'm still at $195. Good luck.

[UNCLE BINGO]

Vam value guide is in the SSDC pages .... PCGS VS VAMWORLD for pricing kind of thing ....still wondering what Greysheets are going to do with Our pricing guide and things like this spread????

[VamHelsing]

Big difference between to 1B3 and 1B3A.....

[UNCLE BINGO]

So what we have here is just failure to attribute by PCGS, or just no sales data on their end ????
I'm good with the VAM value price guide if it is correct just confused By PCGS sometimes , and honestly I have not went looking in coin facts for auction prices so it may be there. This is just an interesting for sale item , be more fun to pick than pay for kind of variety .

[UNCLE BINGO]

It must not be attributed correctly on the holder, or PCGS verification is misleading

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[mark]

It must not be attributed correctly on the holder, or PCGS verification is misleading Screenshot 2023-03-16 102337.jpg

NOAH in the OPs post means not attributed on holder. The guide price shown by PCCGS is only for a regular 1921-s in MS63.

Only 3 in BU in 15+ years means this is a very rare coin.

[UNCLE BINGO]

Ya I understand that I was just trying to help Marky b know the why of this one

[MarkyB]

Ya I understand that I was just trying to help Marky b know the why of this one

Oh, I've known the why since I was told of a value guide. A value guide behind a pay wall. That's fine but what happens when those same people kill VAM 1B3A or any other VAM? What's its value now? Now you're thinking...well, that would never happen. Think again. There seems to be a lot of joy in killing VAMs due to past mistakes and I've had a few killed or put into a "dubious" state. I like solid investments. PCGS puts an approx. $50 premium on the 1B3 VAM which appears even rarer. That's good enough for me.

[UNCLE BINGO]

Oh heck , I figured the 22 bucks was tons cheaper than Greysheets . Even a basic, no free vouchers, membership cost twice that Much somewhere I here ..... And the shirts are way cool !As far as the rest of your post I can't really say one way or the other . Only thing I am interested in is some kind of base line based off a very volatile Market ... Every coin ever struck is worth exactly what someone else will pay you for it , if you sell.

[mark]

Ya I understand that I was just trying to help Marky b know the why of this one

Oh, I've known the why since I was told of a value guide. A value guide behind a pay wall. That's fine but what happens when those same people kill VAM 1B3A or any other VAM? What's its value now? Now you're thinking...well, that would never happen. Think again. There seems to be a lot of joy in killing VAMs due to past mistakes and I've had a few killed or put into a "dubious" state. I like solid investments. PCGS puts an approx. $50 premium on the 1B3 VAM which appears even rarer. That's good enough for me.

If you like solid investments buy bullion and common graded dollars, not VAMs.

[Mhomei]

If the original poster of this thread says its a V1B3A, THEN rest assured it is a V1B3A

[vampicker]

And he'd be far more interested in a coin or two that he'd want than a sale

[LateDateMorganGuy]

Having done this for over 20 years, I often find it amusing when VAM values come up. If you get into this hobby to make money, you will be sorely disappointed. As an example, name one person who SOLELY makes their income off of VAMs. Think hard before you answer.

[vampicker]

You can't even say JR because I attribute a bunch of other stuff