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WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 2:00 am
by mark
Seemingly impossible to find. If anyone has one to sell, trade, or knows of someone that has one I am very motivated to add to my PCGS registry.

Thought I would add I'm also looking for VAMs 188 and 222A in MS. I know they are out there!

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 2:16 am
by Vam-mysterio
Good luck

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:11 pm
by vamnuke
:roll:

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86

Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 5:05 am
by mark
:D

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 5:15 pm
by mark
Added that I'm also looking for VAMs 188 and 222A in MS.

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 5:38 pm
by VamHelsing
:shock:

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 6:25 pm
by Vam-mysterio
:shock:

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:33 pm
by iceman
Mark
Yep I also am hunting for those . Hard ones to find .
Good Luck in your search .
John

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 11:18 pm
by vamnuke
Am fortunate to own 3/4 in MS; V86 is only XF-45. Got the 188 many years ago when 3 came in the market unexpectedly out of nowhere. At the time many of us were thinking there was a roll, but only the 3 were offered; mine is 62; other 2 are 63. Bidders at the time were wary; turned out to be a bargain; v85 found unattributed on. Great Collections auction; everyone else must have been asleep; no bidding war. Got for grey sheet. V222A got from a fellow 7 tf collector that largely got rid of his set; I was fortunate to add several top pop coins to my set including the 222A, which wasn’t cheap. V86 came from Brian; bought raw and definitely not cheap at the time. Bought maybe a year after discovery came to light. Maybe one of my best purchases ever; I really thought more would come to light, but only one every now and then; finest is AU-58, which resides in a top notch set. Funny thing about discovery coins - new hole to fill, but how rare and what to pay? Good luck on filling the holes; 4 tough coins for sure. 😎

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 11:52 pm
by vamnuke
As an afterthought, the finest known V86 was posted raw unattributed on and bought by a knowledgeable collector; you never know when an heir will put up grandpa’s coins for sale. Keep your chin up and when you least expect it something really good will come along!

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:01 pm
by iceman
Vamduke
Yes it just takes time to complete the Quest ! Thats part of the fun . frustrating at times
but that just makes it Sweeter when the coin if found . The search and making
friends and getting knowledge is all part of why we do this Collecting of coins .
Like the knowledge you provided on these coins are Just Valuable for the knowledge .
This is why I enjoy the challenge !!!
John

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:30 am
by mark
I was a bidder on the 3 VAM-188's when they hit ebay. I was being cheap and lost out on all 3. Still regret not ponying up the cash. Best I've been able to find since is my AU55.

Iceman (John).. I've seen your 7TF set on PCGS. You have some fantastic coins in your set.

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:29 pm
by Andy Hansen
Am fortunate to own 3/4 in MS as well; all bought within the last two years. V86 in XF45. I would trade that plus much $$
if a MS were to be available.
V85 64DMPL acquired by a major trade deal involving 14 tough Vams from a fellow Vammer.
Surprisingly, we are still friends. lol.
V188 63. Bought an entire collection from an collector downsizing. Had to over pay for that one to get the deal done from a very sharp collector. V222A 62 came in that collection as well, I would love to upgrade when available.
Always buying Top pops, and meeting new friends.
Stay the course Mark.
Andy

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:05 pm
by DHalladay
I have a 222A in PCGS-58 and am glad to have it. Never seen a Mint State example offered for sale in a public venue.

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:35 pm
by vamnuke
Got my MS 222A in private transaction.

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:30 am
by mark
Hi Andy,

When you upgrade let me know!! ;)

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:43 pm
by 4sdair
Hey Mark, Don't give up looking! I picked all the ones you're looking for RAW off the Bay with the exception of the V85. Took a couple 4-5 diligent years but it did happen. I picked the V86 raw that ended up in PCGS AU58 for $75 buy it now, traded it to Ash for the V85 Discovery coin and some other assorted trinkets, kept the V86 hole filled with a PCGS G06. 222A Raw ended up in PCGS MS62. V188 raw went MS63 PCGS. Also picked another raw V188 that went MS61. I don't think I ever paid over $225 for any individual one.

Clayton and I had a gentleman's agreement and tried to keep track of each others feedback score on ebay and if we found something that looked like the other one was bidding on we would send each other a message to check if they had the bid on it, if the other had a bid we would step down and not cross bid the other one so we didn't run the price up needlessly. A lot of good stuff picked off the bay that way and in collectors hands now.

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:03 am
by vamnuke
Always grateful for that gentleman's agreement; served us both well over the years. :) Yep, you never know what gets put up on eBay or for that matter on GC. Don't give up on Heritage, either; bought an unattributed 78-CC V19A PCGS MS 63 in their buy it now listing for common $$. Time and diligence and as Dr. Fey used to say, "knowledge is king." I have enjoyed this thread!

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:13 am
by Options25
Obviously we all search the same places and get lucky every once in a while. Recently got an 8tf v5 in pcgs65 on heritage buy it now for under a grand. They are out there. But if both mark and others spot an 85 or 86, 8ts going to get expensive

Re: WTB: 1878 VAMs 85 & 86 & (188 & 222A in MS)

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:12 pm
by mark
This is a great thread and I thank you all for the encouragement.