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Would someone please add this to both the attribution page and the Scribbles Guide?

The "hat" on the S in PLURIBUS on this 1921-P is kind of fun – but what is it?

Mega-congrats to both parties!
This is only the 4th example I am aware of trading hands since 2004, all of them between private parties and all of them AU58s.

Bravo!!

Mitch: Plus, that would be great showing off!

OK, that explains it.
I have 5 VAM 3DAs and none of them have the gouge. So you may have a new addition to the 3DA sequence.

My bad... I thought you were talking about the crack.

I see what looks like a gouge through the E in one photo, but it doesn't look too convincing in the other photo, so I can't really offer much of an opinion.

What you're seeing through TES on the reverse is a die crack, which are profoundly common (and sometimes more extensive than makes any sense) on 1921-Ps.

There are D1 and D2 crack guides elsewhere on this site that many of us use to make VAM attributions, rather than using scribbles.

1889-P VAM 23A
1878-P 8TF VAM 14.19
1878-P 8TF VAM 14.17

1878-P 8TF VAM 14.11
1921-P VAM 19B (ha-ha Ash!)
1921-D VAM 1X (sorry Jeff!)

First of all, you see which reverse type you have (D1 or D2). Your coin is a D2, which about 80% of 1921-Ps are. Then you see if it has scribbles (your last photo), which your coin has a TON of, and which makes things very easy. Then you go to the 1921-P D2 Reverse Scribbles page and a start scrolli...

Yep, a nice lamination.

Mitch:
That's it! Thanks!
But I can't believe it isn't in the die crack guide. And the scribbles guide obviously needs this updated LDS photo.

There are also a few very old cracks on the coin: There are a couple of strong gouges in the lower part of the Y in Liberty's headband, and a lot of polishing lines between the cotton bolls:

This is a D1 reverse. There are no scribbles, but there is a heavy horizontal gouge at the bottom of the right opening, and a long, snake-shaped gouge on the eagle's abdomen: raw1921 scribbles.jpg By far the most distinction feature on the coin (if this isn't a new discovery I can't believe it doesn...

Hey Dennis, that wouldn't happen to be the VAM-7 you got from me a couple years ago, was it? If so, that's awesome cuz I sold that one because I found an AU53!! :lol: LOL! No, that was an unattrbuted 'pick at Great Collections in March. None of the coins submitted had a CAC sticker, but the Long No...

Grades posted, and they once again tell me how little I think I know.

I saw this at an RV park on the coast of Oregon recently. It still makes me smile.

At Greysheet Bid it's pretty darn hard to say it's too much.

vampicker wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:55 pm

Think you already know and are just hoping you're wrong. That second U in UNUM tells the story ... damage. All of the scratches around the area are from that same grinding hit.

The stuff on the reverse looks like die scratches though.

I agree with J.R.

Great information about the 1892-S Alan; thanks for sharing.