VAMWorld 2.0

I've been approached by Winston Zack, who is the author of the "Bad Metal" series about contemporary counterfeits. He's in need of good full-coin pictures of the following from the Micro O family for his third volume, which will include silver dollars: • 1893-O VAM 9 • 1894-O VAM VNA-B • 1896-O VAM ...

keilg1 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:36 am

Awesome sauce...

To confirm, though: @messydesk, you do not need me to send mine to ya?

Correct. This mystery has been solved.

The obverse pictures on the VAM 24 page were all VAM 105, so I removed them from the VAM 24 page. I added the clear picture of the chip inside the upper loop of the 8. I may add a couple more. VAM 24 has the earliest reverse of 24, 10, and 105.

A little more digging and Brent's 80-S labeled VAM 24 is actually VAM 105, cataloged with the C3q reverse of VAM 10. It was discovered in 2013 by one Brent Fogelberg. I'm going to change the reverse name of VAM 24 to C3q to keep it consistent with VAMs 10 and 105.

I have Brent's and Jody's coins in front of me at the moment. It actually looks like Jody's is VAM 24, and not Brent's. The VAM book clearly shows the chip that is in the top of the upper loop of the first 8. The reverses of the two coins are the same, with Brent's being later die state. It also app...

This happens a lot on coins through 1883. Post the mint mark and the wing-neck gap polishing line detail and we'll get a lot closer.

Yeah, I need to work on those pages. There are some 21-S pages I need to rework as well. I tried to write the specification so that the pictures wouldn't really be necessary to tell the stages apart. Line through the D with no radial crack is 3BQ3, with radial crack 3BQ4.

As far as I know, milk spots that have been seen on ASEs and other mint products are permanent and are a result of improper planchet preparation. The APMEX rounds may spot for the same reasons, but I haven't heard anything specifically about them.

RE: "Yeah, whatever it is, it's definitely funky, interesting and mysterious. I don't recall seeing anything like that anywhere else aside from the similarity to the acid treated reverses. Maybe one day @RogerB will surface some sort of correspondence regarding it." Additional San Francisco Mint do...

Still plenty of room in this submission if you're interested.

Doesn't ring a bell. Cracks aren't well documented for 21-S yet, so from here it's just another 21-S with a die crack.

Never realized Philadelphia produced any coins in 1878!! Are any of them worth collecting? lmao The Funky Feathers always refer to the San Fransico Mint. Now I need to reevaluate everything I ever thought I knew about Morgans. I now know that I know Nothing!! Thanks for raining on my parade. I bet ...

vampicker wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 12, 2023 12:04 am

Apparently I liked the piece better in hand when I saw it almost 14 years ago

The image on the Wexler site is more clear than the CPG pic
http://doubleddie.com/1429840.html

Indeed, it is.

I would label this as VAM 1F1 EDS, noting that the breaks aren't yet fully formed.

Looks interesting, but I'd want to see additional examples before consenting to a certification Intriguing, indeed. I would call the exact coin pictured FS-501, since it's the coin in the book, but I would be reluctant to call anything else in low grade FS-501 unless I could get a good look at the ...

fogie wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:41 am

So be it! We ship on the morrow!

Only if you ride at dawn.

Indeed, congratulations are in order. PCGS seems to be ramping up variety attribution. They're also going to start recognizing Shield nickel varieties from the 1994 Fletcher book (good luck finding one) and John Dannreuther's proof nickel coinage book. Hopefully, they're not biting off more than the...

When coins from multiple people need to be compared, it's best to coordinate submissions so that the coins in question arrive at roughly the same time.

iwillbenice wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:04 pm

Revisions and others for the 1890 S Morgans?

32 changes to the database for 1890-S total. 27 were last week.

Looks like the discoverer is Bob Griffin, April 2010.